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In my relatively short life I have owned three different 2CVs. Misfortune has forced me each time to give them up: the first time the engine broke down in a foreign land, too foreign to bring it back. The second time the car was crashed down by a motorhome and reduced to a thin plate. The third time a kamikaze Bmw dived into my side, cutting the car in two.
But I don't give up, I'll buy anotherone as soon as I can. Yes, because the 2CV has become to me a sort of addiction, a healthy (or unhealthy?) drug that I learned is so hard to live without. I feel so bad at night when I roll in my bed, empty, and she is not there! Yes, we have come right to this point!
Driving in my 2CV used to give me a sense of carelessness, freedom, joy of living and of being around that few other things or humans have given me. She was like a good, silent but caring and understanding friend, the perfect companion for all my traveling, which was quite adventurous, by the way. Perhaps you won't believe it, but machines have a heart beating, if you can listen deep enough.
I traveled almost 100.000 miles with my three models, mostly throughout Europe and Eastern Europe, at the maximum speed of 55 mph! Can you believe anything like that? Well, it's part of the philosophy of driving such a car, to take it easy whatever you do.
The most beautiful sensation I remember was the unerring certainty that every, EVERY single child that would spot my car ducking along, would suddenly change his expression first into astonishment, then into an open smile, and finally into a frenzied jumping and yelling and pointing his finger at us, and pulling his mother's jacket to see what was coming.... If they were inside a car that was overtaking us, they would smash their nose to the glass, just to watch us better. As they would get farther, then, they jumped for joy waving their hand. So funny!
Now, when I spot a 2CV coming I feel that same process taking over inside of me, and I sigh for the nostalgia!
I thought of following buzios' suggestion to list some technical details of this wonderful car, just to give you a glimpse oh her features.
The 2CV was produced with 2 standard choices, the 2-cylinder
400cc engine and the 2-cylinder 602cc engine: powerful, isnt'it? During the 80's the choice was reduced to the 602cc engine configuration only. With such a jewel one can actually speed the car up to 75mph, in the best weather and road conditions: that is to say, with a strong wind on the back and a steep downhill road ahead. Pushing the car at that limit, however, has often meant killing the engine itself, to their users' astonishment. In fact, not many do know that in order to keep a 2CV engine in perfect conditions the speed should never exceed 55mph. That's mainly because we are dealing with a very old concept motor, an almost unchanghed 50 years old one, which has some obvious mechanical limits. Hitting as little as 60mph and keeping that speed for, let's say, even an hour, would cause the overheating of the pistons, which will over time consume. The internal adherence to the cylinders will lessen, causing the pistons to "rinse" inside. The first clear signal of this decay is when the oil starts splitting from the air inlet hose, which is positioned on top of the engine: in fact, the oil fills the spaces created in the cylinders and afterwards the pressure pushes it up to the hose. Eventually the air filter will jump away from its position, signaling you of the problem. The second clear signal of the decay, now irreparable, is the chirping sound coming from the motor, in place of its usual constant low buzzing sound. That's definitely the sound of the pistons ticking against the cylinders' walls. The only thing you can do at that point is to bring in the engine for a serious trimming, or your car will progressively leak and split oil all over until her death.
Done with the bad news, now we turn to some features. The 2CV, in spite of many progresses made by car manufacturers in the last years, represents a model of unsurpassed completeness, safety, elegance (if we may say), comfort and, why not, performance. We might talk for hours just enumerating the beautiful privileges of the lucky owners of the 2CV.
The car, first conceived in 1939 to carry potatoes from the countryside, was designed by French architect Le Corbusier: what a reference! Hey what was Frank Lloyd Wright doing at that time, wasting his talent behind bricks? :) Actually, the lines of the car are clearly inspired to the epoque of the project, but they possess such an intrinsic harmony that they have resisted practically forever, since the car has become a - still living - legend. Sitting at the steering wheel you will notice how smoothly all the metal surround you with no sharp edges. All is curved and convergent, you feel like you're running under a bell. The front seater beside you usually gets scared, at the begininng, because he or she doesn't have the control of the wheel and the optical illusion is to be inside an egg, rather than a car. From that eye, for instance, you don't see the coffer!
The front lights are really sophisticated both in the make and in the use: you can turn a knob from the driving seat and regulate their height. It's all mechanical.
The tachimeter adopted on this car is one of the finest ever: we are talking about Jaeger, ladies and gentleman! I can assure you that I haven't seen anything so precise on any other car (but I never drove a Ferrari yet). On the tachimeter you could also spot 3 red marks in proximity of the 3 most economical speeds: about 25mph, 40mph and 55mph. Driving on the highway at 55mph, keeping the speed on the red mark, has thus allowed me to cover an average 12-13miles per liter.
The gear change is another intelligent heritage from automobile prehistory: it is positioned on the dashboard, in a central position. Thus, you have all the space free at the bottom to move your legs commfortably. It's also so much easier to use than the traditional gear change, because your right hand keeps always close to the steering wheel. A negative counterfeature at this point is right the steering wheel itself, as today we wouldn't be used to drive without powersteering. On that car powersteering - an electronic device, is simply impossible to think, as well as the legendary hydraulic steering of the Citroen DS, which would be too complicate to install. This means that the driver will "feel the horses" a little bit (Did you know that 2CV in French means 2 horses?).
And what about the windows? the windows of the 2CV are really cleaver. they are cut in two and you can only open the bottom part, revolving it upwards 180° to its blocking point. In this way, the air flows in without harassing your hair cut! besides, find me an electric window that opens up this fast! You must be careful, however, in blocking the window, because the mechanism is somehow delicate to manage.
On a 2CV, you don't need air conditioning: the car is convertible, so that in summer you'll always have plenty of air coming in. Sometimes it won't be really cool air, I know that, but why don't we take this as a chance to be healthy? air conditioners are dangerous to our lungs, in the long run (ok, air conditioners can stop the pollution from getting into the car - the 2CV can't, that's also true). In winter, unless you drive at really cold temperatures (nearly or below zero) the heating system of the car will borrow hot air from the engine, enough to keep your feet burning. Yes, clean hot air from the engine: don't think again of anything electronic, because you won't find it. Two carton-board tubes are positioned nearby the upfront wheels and capture the air released by the motor, delivering it straight into the car. the air accesses the car from a hole in the bottom, which you can set open or close manually. The idea of warming up the bottom part of the inside is so clever! once your feet are warm, all your body will benefit. Assured.
2CV's roadholding is legendary. The car is really tall, about 1.60m, but practically impossible to capsize. The reason is hidden in the shape of the car itself: it is larger at the bottom, narrower at the top, and equipped with generous, very flexible shock absorbers and unusual 15 inches wheelrims, so the tires are really tall. At Citroen, in the old times, they would give you a brand new model if you could capsize one 2CV: that's not quite for the same reason that Mercedes replaced all its A-Class models! In fact, nobody ever capsized a 2CV!
And what about comfort? if you suffer from back aches, this is the car for you. A 4 wheelLand Rover is not. But like a real 4 wheel road runner, the 2CV will pass hardly over any obstacle, with the additional benefit of not disturbing your vertebres, nor putting at risk your encefalus beating on the roof, since there is a LOOOT of space over your head, if you need to jump occasionally on the bumps. We must remember that this car, in the fifties, has made the trip around the world! We are talking about the old primitive fifties, nothing to do with this GPRS millennium. The tires of the 2CV, made exclusively by Michelin, are fit for all the roads. You could go on the snow without chains, accordingly to the specifications.
I might talk for hours about the many beautiful features of my beloved 2CV. For this reason, telling you about some little flaws will take me just a short, but sadly and honestly necessary, time. Well, first of all, the car is slow on the highway and will force trucks to overtake often. In some respect the car front seats might be considered uncomfortable, mainly because they are not reclining and don't have headrests. You can however install your own seats on the car, that's a very easy thing to do. The windshield is quite small, compared to today's standards. Besides, the bumpers are invisible to the driver, so that you need some practice before you can safely park your car without scratching them. Afterwards, you'll drive "blindly". Bumpers also seem to be the favourite targets of sunday drivers, as you will easily find them bumped upon picking your car from the parking lot. The brakes are old generation brakes: use them with caution. ABS is unthinkable on this car. You won't need airbags, though, and that's a great advantage to my opinion (I am scared of those 300km/h balloons exploding in my face). One may say that since you can't really speed up with that car you can't really hurt yourself. I think that's true: nobody was ever heard to be killed on a 2CV. The chassis is an old concept one, a whole long metal plate from back to front. If you crash, it will probably bent, forcing you to a costly restoration. The problem is that the insurance companies won't pay you too much money, being the cost of restoration often close to the value of the car itself. If you crashed with a Golf 5 - year 2001, you should probably throw the whole car but at least you will get most of your money back from the insurance company.
Again, one might keep going with the enumeration of the flaws, but in the end it would be not of much use. This is a car to love or to hate. Eventually, you will just fall in love unconditionally with her. I wish they kept making her, but they quit the production and won't pick it back. C3 and C2 models have been heralded as the (immeritous, to me) heirs of the 2CV.
I am still looking to find my fourth model. With a little bit of luck the show will go on. Please, let me know of any good deal you might spot!
J.A
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Agree with Meharidude, 2cv engines can endure maximum revs indefinitely, as they are built accordingly. From time to time, just lift your foot from the gas pedal to allow oil, pulled by sudden depression in combustion chambers, to "climb" along cylinders walls and help pistons cool and lube, as you would on any car anyhow.
You must be jocking: Le Corbusier had nothing to do with the 2cv styling. The car has been gesigned by another Genius called Bertoni, who was also the father of the Traction, the DS and the Ami 6.
meharidude 27.11.2004 16:32
The first review is pure nonsense..A 2CV engine loves to be reved, and no if it is properly setup it wont overheat..(i should know i have 300.000 kms behind me in a 2CV and a Mehari).
If it starts to spill oil, then the first thing to check would be the oil breather, which is actually the oilfiller neck, as the valve inside it is made of rubber and goes hard with time. If the rubber is has perished or gone hard, the pressure in the crankcase would increase and litteraly blow oil every where, including the oilfilter.
Now, a lot of 2CVs are suffering from false air, leading to overheating, but that is due to a crack in the fibre block under the carb.
Yes, i've had broken piston rings in my 2CV..But that was due to an idiot pouring Diesel on the tank rather than 95 ron..My own fault.
Yes the 2CV engine is of an old design, the latest version were designed in the mid sixties, but it has quite an output in comparison to other engines of the era.
The high compression engine (Dyane6 and Ami8) pours out 32hp(DIN) at a mere 5750rpms (older 2CV versions were running as high as 7000rpms..), and the design incoporates features found in full breed racing engines.
Compare to say a BMC Mini Clubman 1275cc (not Cooper S).
If you couple 2 Dyane engines together, you'd get 64hp from 1204 cc..The Clubman only has 60hp from 1275cc...
A 2CV/Dyane engine can easily be modded for more power, i think the current limit is set at 90hp at 9000rpms, and then you can't go much higher as the average piston speed at 9k rpms is 21m/s, which can't be sustained for a longer period of time due to the limitations of the oil. Then compare this to the average piston speed at 5750, 13.4 m/s...
Conclusion: It's designed for high revs, just rev the little engine, it won't harm it, most 2CVs will rev to 6000+ rpms and still sound good afterwards.
kim
totempole 26.11.2003 00:02
changing gear on the dashboard! I remember that. I also remember often having the feeling to fall on one side when turning ... ;-)
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