Get brilliant photos near and far with the HP Photosmart 850 digital camera. With 56x total zoom (8x optical, 7x digital) and 4.1 MP-resolution you will get outstanding close-ups... more
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other electronic appliances. The interchangeable DC plugs included are for center plus and polarity protection. Any setting of the output voltage selector switch is protected against unintentional change of voltage. A power on LED and 2 rubber grips for easy handling rounds off the high specification of a neat, compact and easy to carry power supply for worldwide use. Output voltage in 6 fixed steps 2.4v, 3v, 4.2v, 5v, 6v, 6.5v, 7v, 8.4V to match the voltage specifically needed for most digital cameras. 5 inter changeable centre plus and polarity protected DC plugs included. (Plug dimensions 1.7 x 4.75 / 1.7 x 4 / 1.4 x 3.5 / 0.75 x 2.4 / 5.5 x 2.1 all right angled plugs).
A review by boswelox on HP PhotoSmart 850 January 25th, 2004
Author's product rating:
Picture Quality
Excellent
Range & Quality of Features
Diverse
Ease of Use
Very Easy
Durability
Satisfactory
Overall Look & Design
Excellent
Value for Money
Excellent
Advantages:
Picture quality, easy handling, great lens
Disadvantages:
See review
Recommend to potential buyers:
yes
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Having bought a digital camera nearly five years ago (an eternity in this business), I felt it was time to move on. Digicams have matured a lot in that time - last year they finally started outselling film cameras, and since Kodak announced the forthcoming run-down of film manufacture around the world, now seemed a good time to start looking.
I have, in fact, read the reviews until my eyeballs hurt - the 'net is a wonderful resource, but sometimes there is a bit TMI. Cameras in particular seem to be covered in mind-numbing detail (see dpreview.com if you don't believe me), but at least it gave me something to chew on. As it happens, the HP 850 is not universally admired by photography buffs, partly, I suspect, because it isn't made by a 'proper' camera manufacturer, and partly because you can't override all the controls and force it to take really bad pictures.
However, to my mind, it offers exactly the right feature set, which is a well thought-out middle path between point-and-shoot and manual override of everything, which is only important if the automatic stuff doesn't work or is easily fooled.
This is not to say that you can't adjust anything, if you really insist, but the metering (exposure control) and autofocus are so good that there are very few circumstances when you might need to. You can shoot into the sun and it can focus in the dark, which is enough for me! I'm old enough to remember when cameras were completely manual, but somehow they don't seem to be hot sellers nowadays...
HP have also very sensibly gone to a camera maker (Fuji) for the lens, while they have applied their own expertise to the rest of the camera. The result is that the menus are very clear and intuitive, and almost any of them can be interrupted to shoot a picture simply by pressing the shutter button. The download software is equally straightforward and has the best red-eye removal tool I have seen.
The camera isn't perfect, of course. It doesn't have a continuous or rapid-fire mode, although it's a lot quicker than my old Olympus. Shot-to-shot time is about 2 seconds, which I can live with, but it might not suit a sports photographer. Similarly, the electronic viewfinder (EVF) freezes while the camera is focussing, which can take up to about a second. This doesn't sound much, but is noticeable if you're tracking a moving subject. The answer is to pre-focus (half-press the shutter with the camera aimed at the right distance) and then locate the subject. This is common to most EVF's, which have some advantages over ordinary viewfinders, but this isn't one of them.
The camera is relatively large, and I did consider buying something really dinky that I could carry with me all the time. However, little cameras are difficult to hold steady, while the HP fits really nicely into two hands, which makes a big difference to the end result. Some cameras are now coming out with image stabilisation, but it's a lot less important if you can hold the thing properly (and if you can't, a tripod will be much cheaper).
The best reason for wanting this (or, for that matter, any other) camera is the lens, and this one is gorgeous. It is fast, i.e. it transmits a lot of light, even at full telephoto, and the zoom range is about as much as one can use without a tripod becoming obligatory. If you want the numbers, they are f2.8 at 37mm* to f3.1 at 300mm*, a range that would normally require lots of other compromises with regard to distortion and what is called chromatic aberration. This lens has them, to be sure, but in trivial amounts, and not enough for ordinary mortals to worry about.
[*35mm camera equivalent length, which is the common standard for comparison.]
Long zooms are becoming more popular in the digicam world, and for good reason. For one thing, they are much easier to implement in a camera with a small 'film' (the CCD in a digicam is a lot smaller than a 35mm film). Buy a similar lens for a 35mm camera and you will find yourself a) a lot poorer, and b) needing a second bag to carry it in. Secondly, they substitute for pixels. Digicams are sold largely on pixel count (mine's got more than yours, etc) but that is only half the story. What matters is the level of detail in the final picture, and assuming you're using your computer (I know you've got one!) to edit the result, you may well want to chop out the interesting bit in the middle from the boring stuff round the edge, especially if the subject is some distance away. This is how 'digital zoom' works and, as you've probably realised by now, it isn't really a zoom at all, because you just end up with a rougher picture.
A proper optical zoom, on the other hand, takes you closer to the subject and still allows you to use all the pixels available, and even if you don't get as close as you'd like, you've still got something to work with. What isn't generally realised is that zoom is worth more than pixels, because one is measured as area and the other is measured as straight magnification. I'm not trying to baffle you with maths, but if you consider a picture taken with, say, a 2 Megapixel zoom camera, where the subject fills the frame at 3x magnification, to get the same result with no zoom (by cropping the picture) you would need nine times the number of pixels, i.e. 18 Megapixels! By the same token, to get the same quality of picture from a 3x zoom that you could get with a 6x zoom would require four times as many pixels. This is assuming you're after a distance shot, of course (it doesn't apply to landscapes) but in my experience, the things you want to photograph are often a bit further away than you would like.
The HP has 4 Megapixels and an 8x zoom, which for someone like me, is camera heaven. There are better specified cameras around, but not too many at the time of writing (January 2004) and absolutely none at the price (currently ?289 in Jessops but an amazing ?199 at Digital Depot). As with most digicams, however, you should budget for a larger memory card and some rechargeable batteries - it takes AA's, which is a good thing, as you can get an emergency set of Duracells anywhere.
I have a feeling that it's soon to become obsolete, although I hope that it gets a reprieve. Its successor, the HP 945, is very similar to look at, but has more manual controls (no doubt to keep the addicts happy) and is more complicated. All I want is something that takes great pictures, and that the 850 already does.
(Go to the Trekearth website for some fine examples.)
Advantages: 8 x Optical Zoom, Good battery life, 4 megapixel, Easy to use, 60 second video capture Disadvantages: Too bulky for some, adapter needed for optional filters, looks a little plastic-y
I bought this camera as an upgrade from a Kodak DX3700 which I thought at teh time produced good results. Main reason for the upgrade was lack of zoom and focus on the Kodak. Having used this quite extensively I can not believe how much better the quality of the pictures are.
It has a few advanced options if you are brave enough to experiment, for example you can set the shutter speed and the camera will choose the exposure or vice versa (You can ... ...lots of steps inbetween).
There are 3 different quality setting with the lowest compression producing 1.8Mb file sizes.
The zoom is mighty impressive with an 8 x Optical and after that the digital zoom kicks in and as it digitally zooms it displays how much the quality is suffering (i.e. It drops from 4 megapixel down to just below 1 megapixel quality but that is very very zoomed in.
It has a self timer which is handy and can also record up to ...
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Advantages: The picture quality of this camera (using "auto" setting and *** picture quality) is as good as I have seen from any 4mp camera.The camera becomes very easy to use after a short learning period. Disadvantages: The camera isn't as compact as some (because of its excellent 8x zoom optical system
...across the market,I believe rigorously, before obtainaing an example of the camera. I have no regrets
7. There is a very active discussion group on Yahoo groups containing much relevant information and tales of woe or delight re the HP 850
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Get brilliant photos near and far with the HP Photosmart 850 digital camera. With 56x total zoom (8x optical, 7x digital) and 4.1 MP-resolution you will get outstanding close-ups and beautiful quality for prints up to 20x30-inches. Then use HP instant share to select on your camera where photos will go - including e-mail addresses, printers and more. Choose the automatic mode or manual controls to select camera setting for ISO exposure, white balance, and more. And you can capture moments in sound and motion using the video clip with audio feature!