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The following is to be written as a dialog between two opposing people on the argument of capital punishment. The names I have chose have no significant meaning, I just fancied using Greek names to make it look more like something you'd find in Plato's book the Republic, I also fancied writing it a bit different to how others do, and if people like this style you might see Tamas and Agatone coming back for another argument.

Tamas - I turn to you now Agatone to discuss the role of capitol punishment in our society; I for one believe that it should be reincorporated into our system as it serves the purpose of justice, any man who has taken a life shall expect nothing more than for his own to be taken in return, this I see is the only logical outcome in a just world.

Agatone - Is that so Tamas, so what you say is if a man is to kill, in return his left is to be taken?

Tamas - Indeed

Agatone - And who is to take that mans life?

Tamas - The state

Agatone - And then what of the state? Does the man who takes the wrong doers life expect the same? Or his he just?

Tamas - He is just, he is merely doing his job to restore justice

Agatone - I see, but then what of the public? Surely the role of the state is to lead and teach the masses, thus taking a life of a member of the masses surely does not teach lawful citizenship? How can a state expect an obedient, law abiding public when the state itself is breaking the laws it commands?

Tamas - Fair to you Agatone, but answer me this, what would you do if the love of your life was taken away? Would you want justice to be done? Or would you want the man to be freed after his time has been served? Would you want revenge?

Agatone - admittedly Tamas I would be angered, any man would suffer under his own feelings if a loved one is to be taken, but to ask the state to take that mans life would be unjust and thus make me as bad as the man I wish to kill.

Tamas - But this is simple to say when you remain happy, with loved ones intact, your feeling may change if something was to occur.

Agatone - My feelings to justice and morality are far stronger than those of another person, one life for another should never be the case, as where would it stop, if a man was to steal from you would you steal something in return? Surely any man should wish to live a moral life?

Tamas - But is killing in revenge immoral?

Agatone - Any man who wishes that another's would end and acts in a manner to make it happen is immoral

Tamas - What of war?

Agatone - War is different, of course war serves no logical purpose, the only reason why war continues is because we are powerless in our own state to stop it, the interests of the bourgeois outweighs that of the common man, and hence they are used to fight the battles of the rich so they can earn more, but this is far from the point of capital punishment.

Tamas - Agreed.

Agatone - Capitol punishment was only introduced as a method of fear, people would be publically hung to scare the remaining people into obedience, now the state has several other methods to get the public scared, terrorism, disease and war, this is just the few used in our country, if you look to the west you will see even more, as we all know the US is the most feared state, not only by the outside masses but also by those who live inside, everyone constantly scared by the state, outside forces and even members of their own society, simply because the government uses methods to drive fear home, capitol punishment is just one of many used in this case.

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  • Rampant_Ross 06/03/2010 12:36

    Well muttleythefrog...Like I said this was a test sort of thing...and i think it worked in some sense and failed others...I think i went off the point on some things but i was trying to talk about it from a more philosophical type of view. Maybe next time i won't do it like this, maybe i will... Depends...I think i gave an argument against it and its just another add to the topic...think of it what you will...

  • muttleythefrog 05/03/2010 01:15

    Oh Ross you pose a problem here. I think you experimented and it ws a clever idea.. sort of... but it doesn't work in debates. You need to give your view directly using evidence systematically to show how you reach a conclusion. You've used two 3rd parties to try to do this for you and as a result I don't quite know how I would challenge what your view is. What I would say is that the third parties failed to discuss this issue properly.. which includes economic effects, political effects (EU membership for example), practical implementation, effects on social society (you did cover to a degree), crime data effects, crime detection and resolution effects, effects on scientific research (due to reduced access to life prisoners) etc etc. It's a massive subject. I can't rate because you didn't give your argument. What you did present is harmless enough and was worth a try... but for once I agree with thedevilinme. This is more about being creative than an argument and so probably is in the wrong section.

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