... I looked at Toyotas, Hondas, Fords … You name it, I test drove it but in the end I decided to buy an MG TF after a 40 minute road test. This was going to be my first sports car and I wanted it to be British and I also decided to get one that was green - British Racing Green.
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Advantages: Great car to drive Disadvantages: Poor build quality
...I decided to buy an MG TF after a 40 minute road test. This was going to be my first sports car and I wanted it to be British and I also decided to get one that was green - British Racing Green.
I bought it from a dealership called Quicks in Coventry and right from the negotiating stage I found I couldn't get what I wanted. They wouldn't increase the part exchange allowance. They wouldn't decrease the price of the car. They wouldn't ... ...player and I drove my MG home £15k poorer but with the top down I felt special.
That day and in fact that week I felt extremely pleased with myself. I had a convertible. I had sunglasses. It was summer. I had the top down. I was systematically driving my car from one acquaintance to another basking in the literal and figurative sun that was shining on me.
And that was really it for me. That one, single week was probably ... more
The problem with British manufacturing is that we haven't got a clue how to manufacture quality products. No one it seems takes pride in their work anymore. Our guys go to work in the morning and the impression given is that after about 5 tea breaks the average bloke will then start thinking about what to do. In that time a worker in Germany would probably have already done the equivalent of one hour of a British workman's day.
Four years ago I decided to get rid of my Renault Laguna and buy a new car. Up to that point it was probably one of the best cars I'd owned. Before that I'd had a Ford Granada, a Vauxhall Cavalier, a Renault Megane and a BMW 318. The BMW came a close second to the Laguna.
When I sold my Laguna, for some reason I became all patriotic. I went around all sorts of garages. I looked at Toyotas, Hondas, Fords … You name it, I test drove it but in the end I decided to buy an MG TF after a 40 minute road test. This was going to be my first sports car and I wanted it to be British and I also decided to get one that was green - British Racing Green.
I bought it from a dealership called Quicks in Coventry and right from the negotiating stage I found I couldn't get what I wanted. They wouldn't increase the part exchange allowance. They wouldn't decrease the price of the car. They wouldn't upgrade the cassette player to a CD player without charging extra, they wouldn't even throw in a set of mats. I was actually rather impressed by this attitude; this 'we are above haggling' attitude. At the time I felt like I was buying a car from a prestige garage who only wanted to sell the car to the 'right person'. The right person being one with loads of cash, a little up market and wouldn't haggle.
We closed the deal eventually. Went 'halves' on the cost of the CD player and I drove my MG home £15k poorer but with the top down I felt special.
That day and in fact that week I felt extremely pleased with myself. I had a convertible. I had sunglasses. It was summer. I had the top down. I was systematically driving my car from one acquaintance to another basking in the literal and figurative sun that was shining on me.
And that was really it for me. That one, single week was probably the nicest week I had driving around in my new MGTF.
In the second week things started to go wrong and I've never looked forwards since.
The first thing was a noise in the car. Now any convertible is noisy. An MG convertible doubly so because the engine is located about 30 inches behind your head. But this noise was a weird rattle kind of noise. It seemed to come from different areas of the car depending on whether I was going over a bump or turning a corner or sitting idle at a set of traffic lights. I just could not figure it out. I took it back to Quicks who had a half hearted attempt to locate the source but they couldn't figure it out. Mind you the fact that they never took the car out for a spin and didn't take it over a bump or turn corners or sit at traffic lights probably didn't help. I took the car back home and lived with the noise. In fact I still have the noise after 4 years.
The next problem occurred about 8 weeks after I bought the car. A light came on in the dashboard and seemed to indicate that something was wrong with the engine. I took it back and a day later they fixed a loose connection to the light.
I also noticed that there was a gap in between the window and the rubber seal. This seemed to me to be producing excessive wind noise and so I took it back to Quicks to have the window adjusted. They fixed it within a few hours and I drove my car home feeling a bit better because the car was noticeably quieter.
About a month after this I found the light telling me that my hand break was on refused to go out. I took it back to Quicks and a day later they adjusted the hand break to resolve this. In subsequent services, the guys at Quicks had to adjust the hand break again and again to get the light to go out. In fact the light is still on right now again 4 years later. The guys as Nationwide Autocentre mentioned in the service report that the handbrake needed adjusting but failed to adjust it.
Anyway, another month later I returned the car again. This time it was because the carpet underneath my feet had worn away where my heals would go whilst accelerating or breaking or pressing the clutch. This couldn't be replaced immediately but a month later they'd ordered a new carpet and fitted it into my car.
By this time we were in the middle of autumn. I bought my car in April and 6 months later in October I happened to take the car out in pouring rain.
Big mistake
Water leaked in through both windows and it felt like I was driving the car with my windows down. Back to the garage and again a day later I was given the car back with the windows 'fixed'. As I drove it home I found that the wind noise had returned so the next day I took it back and was told that I had a choice. I could either live with the wind noise OR accept that the windows would leak water!! I chose to live with the wind noise. Apparently Rover MG had not figured out how to design a convertible that could keep both wind and water out.
By November the leaves had started falling off the trees and I noticed an odd noise when I put the heating fan on. It sounded like something had come loose in the heater. Once again another trip back to Quicks and this time I was told that leaves had gotten sucked into the air vents from outside and that it was these that were making the noise. They removed the leaves and then TOLD ME OFF for parking my car under trees. Apparently you're not supposed to do that with an MG TF. Rover MG had not figured out how to design heating systems that only let in air and not leaves.
And that was the last problem I had in my first year of owning a British built MGTF. All in all the car was taken back for various problems on average once or twice a month with some problems still not having been resolved even now 4 years later.
The second year saw me taking the car back because the head gasket had blown, that hand break light again (this happens twice a year), water leaking into my boot (never fixed), leaking door mirrors (never fixed), CD player skipping tracks (never fixed) and a few other items such as the MG Badge falling apart (never replaced).
There are also a number of silly design flaws in the car. I've already mentioned the water leaking windows but theres also the windscreen wipers which work separately from the windscreen washer. i.e. you have to squirt the water onto the windscreen and then turn on the windscreen wipers. How much extra would it have cost Rover to connect the two functions together like they are done in EVERY OTHER CAR OUT THERE?
Because the engine is at the back theres no heat to defrost the water in the windscreen washer bottle which is located at the front of the car. Who's great idea was that ?
Theres also the chrome gear knob. Looks great but completely impractical in the winter when your hand literally sticks to your knob (ooo errr) because of the freezing cold.
The cigarette lighter is located near the gear knob. These days most people use that to charge their mobile phone but I can't because theres no place for me to attach the in-car kits that you can buy. My phone has to sit on the floor whilst its being charged.
Bonnet release cable is in the boot. So you have to open your boot in order to open your bonnet. Its so annoying. How hard would it have been to put the bonnet release in the same place it is in every other make of car ?
The heating system in the car seems to adjust the temperature depending on how fast you are driving. So you can set the temperature using the control but then find that the temperature drops whist you are on the motorway. You then adjust the temperature upwards and find its too hot when you come off the motorway. My long distance trips are spent constantly adjusting the heating.
The third year was spent with me trying to enjoy the car which worked when I ignored the problems I had with it and just concentrated on the driving experience. If you ignore the wind noise, and the hand brake light and the rattle and the fact that when you use the windscreen washer the wipers do not automatically come on. If you ignore those things the car is actually good fun to drive around in. Right from the moment you switch on the engine and hear the unique MG engine growl you know you're going to have fun. Going around corners on country roads the car handles exceptionally well. Braking in the wet is a little scary at times as the back of the car seems to want to go in a different direction to the front but if you anticipate the cars behaviour and adjust your driving appropriately you can have genuine fun in it. It's rather sensitive to the brand of tyre you put on it. It comes with Continentals but Kwik Fit once said it would be fine with a pair of Michelins at the back. This is completely the wrong advice because the car slides about all over the place for the first few thousand miles. Driving it around with the top down is very windy but installing a wind break just behind the seats resolves that problem and in the summer its fantastic driving around at speed up to about 60-70 mph. Above that and the noise gets too loud for my liking. Fuel economy is very good too. I get about 30 mpg (about 420 miles on a full tank) but this drops dramatically with the top down.
All in all the driving experience is great but at the back of your mind you can't help thinking that all things being equal, a foreign convertible would be that much better purely from a build quality point of view.
Its pointless talking about the service in Quicks. They have gone bust now so it's not as if anyone will visit them now but for the record up to the point where you left your car with them, the service was exceptional. The quality of service however fell dramatically when they took the car to the back of the garage to 'work on it' because the problems that I reported simply would not be fixed properly or indeed fixed at all.
During my fourth year of owning the car I decided to sell it. I was in a Toyota garage about to buy a Celica and decided to leave it for just one more month. In hindsight it was the worst decision I made with regards to my MG. It happened that it was in that month (literally a week after) that MG went bust. The price offered to me by the sales chap in the Toyota dealership went down from 10k to 7k and so now I'm stuck with the car, unable to afford to sell it.
Why did MG Rover go bust? There are loads of rumours about the directors siphoning off all the cash etc but fundamentally in my opinion it's because people weren't buying their cars. They weren't buying them because we haven't got a clue how to manufacture quality goods. A friend of mine used to work for them and she told me that the worst thing you could do was to buy a Rover or MG Rover that had been built over the Christmas period. Why? I asked. Because the workers are all p?ssed over Christmas and quality control is too relaxed to pick up the problems. I went back to see when my car had been built. I bought it in April; it was registered in February and built in December…..
...paid!!
This is the MG TF 135 (136bhp) model with ABS.
As a pure driving experience it has surpassed the MGF in handling, refinement and looks.
Although the engine is a little flat below 3,500 - 4,000 there is enough torque to push you along at a reasonable rate. Take the engine up into the power band and that twin cam K series engine comes to life. The exhaust note changes from a hum to a growel. Snarling at every other 'foreign' pretend roadster!!
... ...Dont bother with the MG TF 160. There really is not that much difference over the performance of the 135. Not as you would notice at least. Similar specto 160 but a saving of of a few thousand pounds!
Did I make the right choice?
Hell Yeah!!!
Should you buy one?
You will know the answer as soon as you turn that leather sports wheel into th corner!! ...
nigel_t 03.08.2003
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Advantages: Price, legroom, Rover Warrenty & looks Disadvantages: Paint chips, Inside the bonnet, standard speakers.
...so I have returned to MG ownership. I am 6 foot 2 inches tall large(ish) built man & driving this car being tall causes no problems. There is good leg room but your left knee can catch the gear stick and it takes a bit of getting used to. In my opinion buy the 1.6 engine size, 115 model. It is the cheapest and the difference between the 1.6 & the 1.8 is minimal, especially on todays roads. The 115 model looks the same as all the others but a few ... ...had central locking put on for free which does not come in the basic package. Also the 115 does not have the speakers behind the seats and no interior alarm system. All these come as standard in the 1.8 models. It is worth using these points to get the price down further or asking the dealer to add them in the sales package for free. All the MGF's & TF's suffer with the odd stone chips on the bonnet so check out a second hand one in detail. Mine ...
Edwardknight 17.04.2004
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Advantages: looks good Disadvantages: engine breaks!
hmmm... what a bad little car!!! I bought this car 2nd hand from a dealership in may 07, when it was just over 2yrs old for £8000. 18 months later I traded it in for £1200! First the head gaskett went costing me £500 to fix and less than two weeks later the engine went too and would have cost me £2000 odd to replace. Not to mention the central locking neaver worked, the heat dial constantly broke so it only had hot air and the interior carpet and ... ...trim!!!!
Bronagh
I read bad reviews on this car before I bought and thought - it'll not happen to me - how wrong was I??? I just wanted a slick looking convertable and no amount of bad reviews would have put me off!!! Sorry reviewers - I should have paid attention!
So my car was not even due for its first MOT and the engine had went!
Please avoid this car at all costs - looks good, but with the head gaskett problem (lots of people now tell me ...
bronagh22 05.02.2009 (04.02.2009)
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Advantages: Good fuel economy, excellent standard soundsystem Disadvantages: poor craftsmanship, known electrical issues
the MG TF is a very stylish range. varied engine options and the ability to aquire models with full sports kits at a reasonable price.
As it stands in the line up of other 2 door sports cars, it will not hold first place. With poor electrical system and shoddy interior this car will not be at the top of the range.
However, it is a fast car, spacious cockpit with masses of leg room, the drivers seat is very low and is extremely comfortable on long ... ...and ideal for all ages, fuel consumption on long journeys in an MG TF 115 1.6 is quite remarkable but can let you down during urban driving. at present £20 will fill your car half way and give you enough to be seen in your car daily for a week. ...
Chelios 22.06.2007
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I bought a new '05 TF 135 in April, exactly one week before MGR went bust. I actually consider myself lucky that I got one of the last TFs made, as this has been my dream car for ages. The new '05 model year has a hugely improved suspension with a glass rear window and lots of extras as standard. It looks beautiful, and with the Grenadine and Alacantara interior it looks as stylish on the inside as it does on the outside. The optional (and good-value) ... ...a little less sharp than the 02MY but is still very balanced with just a touch of oversteer at speeds. The new standard-fit Continental tyres and revised spring rates mean that the car handles much more safely in the wet than previous TFs or Fs ever did. Fuel economy is averaging out at 35MPG on a mixture of urban, motorway and back roads, which is decent considering I drive this car fairly hard. It's a pity that standard safety features are thin-on-the-ground ...
afterthegoldrush 17.01.2007
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Advantages: top pose Disadvantages: dont take it to do your shopping
i use to own a new mgtf roadster but the problem is i like posing as i live in blackpool ,ok i got a few looks you would driving a robin reliant but only a few looks so the mg had to go ,reason being every man and his dog+cat+goldfish has got one the same for the mazda mx5 i might aswell have been driving a ford focus ,so i stumble across the smart roadster!! wow!! listen i have had some head turners in my time but this takes first prize.if you dont like being centre of attention !please!please dont buy one of these from young to old people the looks the questions they have never stopped !!why !! because every man and his dog doesnt have one of these.now let me give you some advice if you want a proper pose mobile get shut of the mg or the mx5 and get one of these.as for the driving experience need i say more i still own one ...
brigsylad 26.06.2008
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Advantages: Great first car, british made Disadvantages: None at the mo
Sorry after someone pointed out i have enter this car under the wrong model. The car isn't the MG Roadster it's the New model called the MGTF 160 (it's not listed yet)...apologies
After recently buying MGTF 160 in silver for my daughter I thought it was a perfect first car and she was loved it too. The car has had a few remodels in its time, but has managed not to look like last nights warmed up pizza. In my view this is a very cheap sports car, and perfect for a first car. Considering, my daughter has asked me for a Lotus, for her 18th!!
Well having driven it a few times, it's a great little car the handling is great and it feel like your driving rather than just flicking a switch. It's sporty through out, right down to the point where you feel your sat on the road! The engine can me a bit unresponsive at times ...
Advantages: Good value, good mpg and good looking Disadvantages: Reliability, insurance and its an MG
I bought my MGTF 160 13 months ago. I'd looked at a few difference alternatives for months before and it came down to the following:-
MGTF160
Toyota MR2
Mazda RX8
Fiat Coupe
The bottom line was that I wanted an affordable sports car which wouldn't be overly expensive to insure and maintain, too often people get cars and then have nasty suprises when its comes to servicing.
I bought mine privately through Autotrader and after some negotiation and checking the cars history with Experion for £40 I made the decision to go for the 160.
Since the launch of the TF range I was impressed with the looks of the car and the performance. I test drove the 135 and the 160 and too be honest its a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. The 135 is a fair amount slower than the 160 and its nice to have the little extra zip when its needed ...
ccundall 05.12.2005
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