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Disc 2, Persistence, is full of lots of great stuff, the most significant being the original MSX titles, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, both of which have been perfectly translated to the PlayStation 2 hardware. I'm all for bonus games, especially if they're classics, so being ... Read review
Advantages: Addictive Online Play, funny parody scenes and 3rd person View! Disadvantages: not as much MGS players online as I would have thought
...being the original MSX titles, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, both of which have been perfectly translated to the PlayStation 2 hardware. I'm all for bonus games, especially if they're classics, so being able to play these gems (Metal Gear 2 especially) is just wonderful.
Finally Disc 3 which is only available with the limited edition Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence which features a special 200 plus minute MGS3 movie comprised ... ...playing Metal Gear Solid 3 for the second time, the biggest thing you'll notice about the game is the new vantage point. Instead of the classic top-down view of past MGS games, and then a close-up view when pinned up against walls, you have a new behind-the-back angle that is similar to Splinter Cell although on a totally different level in my opinion.
There is a newly added Duel Mode, just like in substance, a game where you can battle ... more
This game was released a long time before in the US, and we Europeans had to wait eagerly for a while extra as usual, but forgetting that, there are 2 types of subsistence games you can buy, the limited edition one with 3 discs and the standard one with 2 discs. Disc 1 is called Subsistence and it contains MGS3 in all its glory, except this time it comes with six degrees of difficulty, a new behind the pack third person view that allows for better camera angles, and new face paint and outfits for Snake to wear. But aside from these features, it's pretty much the same game, though the new perspective does add a whole new dimension to the gameplay, and the difficulty levels, some of which make the game almost impossible to beat, provide lots of replay value. Disc 2, Persistence, is full of lots of great stuff, the most significant being the original MSX titles, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, both of which have been perfectly translated to the PlayStation 2 hardware. I'm all for bonus games, especially if they're classics, so being able to play these gems (Metal Gear 2 especially) is just wonderful. Finally Disc 3 which is only available with the limited edition Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence which features a special 200 plus minute MGS3 movie comprised of the game's cut scenes.
If you're playing Metal Gear Solid 3 for the second time, the biggest thing you'll notice about the game is the new vantage point. Instead of the classic top-down view of past MGS games, and then a close-up view when pinned up against walls, you have a new behind-the-back angle that is similar to Splinter Cell although on a totally different level in my opinion.
There is a newly added Duel Mode, just like in substance, a game where you can battle against any of MGS3's bosses, except in this case, you're gunning for a record time and a high score. It's cool because it gives you the opportunity to kill the same old bad guys several times over as well as experiment with different strategies that will make you a boss killer pro and more used to the AI of Metal gear solids in general.
The real meat of Subsistence, though, isn't its amazing single-player, it's the online multiplayer. There are five different modes to play; including Death Match and Team Death Match which are just kill everyone affairs, but the last three, Sneaking, Capture, and Rescue, are somewhat unique and at times incredibly entertaining. In the Sneaking game, it's Snake against the world as one player, as Snake, must sneak past the guards (the other players) to steal the microfilm. It's quite intense for both sides, especially since Snake can use his camouflage to make himself invisible. Capture is pretty much Capture the Flag except you're trying to snag a cute Kerotan frog. Lastly, in Rescue, one side is holding a rubber duck hostage and it's up to the other team to get it back by any means necessary.
The online mode is cool, no question, and I like how I can keep a buddy list and view all of my stats, but the third person perspective isn't perfect because it's at times difficult to get a good view of the environments. It's just not as user friendly as the cameras in most first person shooters, where it's a hell of a lot easier to quickly maneuver the camera to get a good view from behind.
Some things you'll want to keep in mind while playing the multiplayer online are little nuances that are prevalent in the single-player as well. If you shoot your gun off like crazy and run around like a maniac, chances are high you're going to screw yourself over and blow your cover. This isn't a shooter like Halo where you want to just run in, guns blazing, and blow up your enemy. Stay sharp and stay quiet, that's the key of it. If you've played any MGS game before, chances are you know about the cardboard boxes. You know that if you have a cardboard box it somehow makes you invisible to your enemy. Now, in real life, we all know that wouldn't happen. If a cardboard box was running around and had eyes peering out of a peep hole, you'd probably do something about it, maybe a little more than just getting a question mark over your head. In Subsistence, you're playing against real live people online, so naturally, they're smarter than that, well… most of them I guess. Although you've got a little bit of leeway here because the levels are set up with a few boxes around the area in pretty convenient locations. So if you stay calm a do the right thing, chances are you'll wind up sneaking around okay in those boxes and being able to pop out at the right time and make your kill, which feels great if it works.
Subsistence comes packaged with some nifty things in it; you'll be able to play through the various boss fights of the game at your leisure and you'll also be able to watch several different videos, including the cinematic and parody shorts. If you were fortunate enough to get the Limited Edition copy, which really is limited, you also get a movie version of MGS3 packed in there that adds all of the cinematics together and throws in some extra narrative on top of it, and luckily I got mine, and it's a great deal for any MGS fan.
In my opinion, the online play is what makes this game a fantastic well worth purchase, as you can literally play it everyday. Altogether the gameplay is very addictive and competitive especially with the 3rd person view which I find totally immersing and varied. The voicing and characters are the most cinematic experience you can get in a game as previous Metal Gear Solids show. The plots are very interesting and keep you on your seats and also have immense detail and explanation, and the story co-insides with issues of war from the past. The graphics are superb whether it's in-game or scenes, the graphics stay the same which are probably the best in-game graphics on any PS2 game. The music is inspirational and extremely professional, just like the previous MGS's, and the Snake Eater intro from MGS3 still brings back nostalgic memories. The gaming life is infinite if people keep the MGS spirit strong by playing it for years to come online. Although there aren't as many people online as I would expect, around 400 people at one time and some servers tend to lag which is a pain when your skills go to waste in frustration of shooting something that is no longer there.
If you've played Snake Eater and you loved it, there's no reason not to get Subsistence, unless you do not have broadband or a network ready PS2, but the 3rd person and parody scenes make up for it. Even if you have spent your time playing the game 100 times, the new camera angle adds a lot of freshness to the single player campaign. Not just that, but the online multiplayer is really amazing and it is clearly one of the best the PS2 has yet to get on the service as PS2 is not as recognised for its online play. If you're a newcomer to the series, you should go pick up the game right now and try to get the limited edition if possible as it's one of the best values you can find. Metal Gear Solid 3, no matter what version you're playing, is a wonderful game that really pushes the boundaries of storytelling in this medium, it will be remembered as a gaming classic in the years to come and I would highly recommend that you make an investment in this, fan or no fan, it's a bargain.
Advantages: a perfect action game with a strong story Disadvantages: 3 disc set
...the next product in the metal gear series. I am a big fan of this game and bought it instantly when it was in stores. In pakistan alot of people do not still know about how this game operates but let me tell you this one is a show stopper. I was addicted to it and i kept on playing and playing and playing
Well as this is a review i will have to address both the positive and the negative aspects so i will first begin with the positives. As always ... ...of attitude and importance this provides fun while playing the game. Another important factor that has been continued from the previous editions are the graphics they are constructively based and leave a mark in every single frame. The story and plot comes next as always the story is completely spell binding and has that extra punch to it.
Now for the negatives well believe me there arent any except that the game is based upon 3 discs and that really ...
nosoftfeelings 05.01.2008
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Product details
Publisher
Konami
Developer
Kojima Productions
Age
18+
Genre
Action/Adventure
Sub Genre
Stealth
Max Number of Players
8 Player
Platform
PlayStation 2
EAN
4012927029794
Aka
MGS3
Manufacturer's product description
3 disc set
Designed as the ultimate Metal Gear experience for the format, the three-disc set features an advanced version of the classic Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater; a second disc boasting a wealth of new game modes, including a full online version of the game, plus perfect recreations of the two MSX Metal Gear titles that started it all; and a three-and-a-half hour movie recut from the game's cinematics on the third disc.
The first disc of Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence showcases a massively enhanced version of Hideo Kojima's acclaimed Snake Eater adventure. Set in a jungle environment during the Cold War, Snake has been sent to retrieve a defecting scientist from a remote base. In addition to his phenomenal stealth skills, Snake also uses a unique Camouflage Index to change his clothes and add face paint to blend in with his surroundings, while his hand-to-hand skills are enhanced via the CQC Close Quarters Combat fight techniques.
New to this version, however, is the 3D camera system that allows players to view the action from virtually any angle - a system that Kojima Productions will also be using in the forthcoming Metal Gear Solid 4 for PlayStation 3. The first disc also features a Demo Theatre, wherein players can watch specific sequences from the game¿s renowned cut-scenes using a simple-to-navigate menu system.
The second disc features a number of key modes designed to extend the Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater experience. One of the biggest advances comes in the form of a full Online version of the game, answering the requests of countless Metal Gear fans. Using the PlayStation 2's Network Adaptor, the second disc allows up to eight players to compete online for the first time ever in a Metal Gear game.
These new online modes push Subsistence to new levels. Kojima has devised Sneaking Missions, Capture Missions, Rescue Missions, Death Matches and Team Death Matches, which will allow participants to battle against each other in real-time environments. The missions are set within key locations from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, and in new areas such as Lost Forest, Killhouse and Ghost Factory. Players choose a team to represent Ocelot Unit, GRU or KGB, and the Online action will offer the user many CQC (Close Quarters Combat) abilities and weapons elements of Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater.
The second disc also features a Duel Mode which allows gamers to play through the timeless Boss fights that punctuate the game and feature a cast of eclectic and deadly adversaries, while Kojima shows his lighter side with a Secret Theatre of spoof scenes - including the return of Raiden! Fittingly for a set that celebrates Metal Gear Solid, Subsistence also features pixel-perfect copies of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 - the games that started it all on the now defunct MSX format back in 1987.
The three-disc set is completed by a visual piece-de-resistance, in the form of a full CGI Metal Gear Solid 3 movie. With a running time of three-and-a-half hours, the movie is a reedit of the game's cut-scenes with additional radio dialogue and gameplay footage seamlessly added. Previously cut sequences have been restored to the movie, allowing people to sit back and watch one of the finest video games of all time in its entirety. And, in a nod to the future of the series, Subsistence also features the full trailer to Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - a taster of Solid Snake¿s final mission
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