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Being Given Silly Things To Do - Jun 07 Revision
A review by BNibbles on Road Angel Navigator 6000
January 23rd, 2007


Author's product rating:   

Reliability Satisfactory 
Ease of Use Simple 
Look & Feel Good 
Battery life Satisfactory 
Value for Money Satisfactory 

Advantages: Neat size allows easier use for walkers and cyclists
Disadvantages: Still a bit quirky  -  better with an external antenna

Recommend to potential buyers: no 

Full review

LET'S GET THE "WHY" BITS OUT OF THE WAY

After 36 years on the road (no wonder I'm tired), I've finally succumbed to a three-point driving license endorsement for speeding.

No excuses I guess; I'm not one of those people who flout the motorway limit for mile upon mile and somehow get away with it, but on occasions I guess, if we're all honest, we've entered a lower speed limit area and not noticed. This is what happened to me on 27th December. There was I dutifully thinking that I was doing 48 in a 50 limit, when a camera with other ideas flashed me. Apparently, for 400 yards or so at Ings on the A591 south of Windermere, it's a 40 limit and in the gloom I'd failed to spot the larger 40 signs at its commencement.

Once the indignation of having a criminal record was overtaken by resignation, I took the easy option and 'came quietly', paying my £60 in the process.

The warning that the penalty 'could' be 6 points and £1000 is enough to make anyone roll over and give in to pleading guilty by post, plus the fact that Kendal Court and the stretch of road in question are 300 miles away.

I used to have one of those little bleeper boxes that used the GPS satellite network to warn of impending speed cameras, but my latest car has an 'athermic windscreen' which uses thin metal foil to keep out the worst of the sun's UV rays. Unfortunately, it keeps out radio waves rather well too!

I gave the box to my daughter whose needs seemed greater than mine, having been 'done' twice in her novice year of driving and having had to sit a retest.

This got me thinking about getting another bleeper, but in doing so, I reasoned, and being a sucker for a gadget, why not go the whole hog and get a 'satnav' with the camera warning facility?

ROAD ANGEL 6000

Choosing one by reading reviews is not easy. For every one that's raved about, someone else will slate the said item for having poor reception or suffering from 'lock-ups'.

I certainly wasn't going to let the spotty Herbert in Halfords sway me towards the one with the best sales commission either.

The much-vaunted TomTom was entirely the wrong shape for me - there's nowhere on the somewhat space-age dashboard of my C4 where I could site a wedge of Edam.

I reckoned that maybe the variable reviews on almost all satnavs stemmed from the fact that as most people are able to stick these things on a sucker in their windscreen, reception was hit and miss depending on several variables, one of which being how much sky the satnav aerial could 'see'.

My installation would be different. Thanks to my 'radio-opaque' windscreen, I was sure I'd need the external antenna anyway, and positioning the aerial could even be on the outside of the car, with no roof line to get in the way of tracking satellites. I could also take a more inventive view of where to 'stick it', the satnav itself that is. With the external antenna attached, the RA 6000 can see 10 GPS satellites consistently compared to 3 to 4 from my bedroom window. Ironically, it also contains something called a Sirf III receiver, which CAN, it seems, see through my windscreen, albeit with a couple less satellites from which to 'triangulate'.

However, the attraction in using the extra aerial was too strong, if only for cosmetic reasons - I don't want a bloody great sucker in the middle of my windscreen announcing to all an sundry that I've got a gadget worth ripping off, besides which, there's a nice little shelf in just the right place, where, with a bit of crafty placement of double-sided Velcro ® it sits as if it were built-in when I got the car.

This lower setting also suits 'vari-focal' glasses wearers (like me), as they don't then have to tilt their heads backwards to focus on something quite high up. Where I place it now only needs a downwards glance without refocusing.

OH, ROAD ANGEL! DELIVER ME FROM ANOTHER 9 POINTS!

Let's be clear - RA 6000 isn't the cleverest bit of kit by far and like other machines at this lowish end of the price range, is prone to idiosyncrasies.

In my trawl of the subject, I'd found not only a clutch of satnavs with camera warnings, but one, the Mio even uses extra RDS information from FM stations to warn of road blockages and work out diversions and it can even use your Windows e-mail address book as a source of likely postcodes to strive out towards - that's if you bother to put that much detail in, in the first place! Oh yes, and it even works as a Bluetooth two-way amplifier for hands-free phone use.

No, knowing where I was, where I was going and if I was getting there too fast were enough for me!

£179 was also enough for me.

Personally the RA 6000's navigational abilities are second place for me, since I rarely drive to somewhere I haven't been before.

It was however just TOO tempting to see how good it was, 'out of the box' as it were, it having arrived by post 90 minutes before I set off from west London to South Perrott in Dorset, just south of Crewkerne in Somerset.

Naturally I knew the way, but for the first half hour the damned thing developed this habit of telling me to U-turn.

I realize now that I've 'RTFM'd', i.e. read the ******g manual, that it defaults to assuming you want the fastest route, so of course it was telling me to get on the M4 ( with J3 just 1.5 miles from my house) so I could swing onto the M25 thence to pick up the M3, when in reality, a diagonal flit to the south west along the first few miles of the A30 along the south side of Heathrow was by far the more direct route. Once I'd re-joined the M25, it took the hint and stopped nagging.

Now that I've set it to 'shortest route', it behaves itself in that respect, although I could still do without being told off by Charlotte Green - why couldn't it have been a slightly more dissolute voice? Mariella Frostrup or Bette Midler, for example.

Not being the smoothest trip I ever did, it took me 45 minutes to get onto the M3, with RA 6000 constantly reminding me that there was 'only' another 900 yards to go, before the turn….. and then 800…….and 700…..

In the end, you find yourself talking back to it - 'Yes, I KNOW I'm taking the next exit - it's just that getting there TONIGHT would be nice!'

After this, all went smoothly, and it transpires that I could have trusted it to get me there, right to the door of a dear friend in a tiny Dorset village. How does it do that? By using the entire postcode, not just the first 5 or 6 digits like some satnavs.

There does seem to be some cause for concern over nomenclature though. Whenever the A303 dwindled from dual- to single-carriageway, it warned of 'leaving motorway', which is OK once you 'get with the programme', as they say.

With hindsight, it's definitely a mistake to use something as complex as this straight from the box, although warnings of impending speed cameras worked fine. A male voice this time, you get a green headline on top of the usual map, and a red one if you're going too fast. You can also switch to camera-monitoring alone which presents an entire screen given over to an 'alternative speedometer' until a camera looms. One thing this has shown me is that my own speedometer is pretty accurate or at least it agrees with the satnav precisely - no more assuming that I can go a 'few over' for me. The only difference is that the satnav takes a while to recalculate alterations in speed but once it settles down there’s a one-for-one compliance with what my dashboard tells me, damn it!.

The Road Angel database includes all manner of speed cameras including those crafty ones that read your number plate twice over a fixed distance and plot your average speed in between. It even includes likely locations for mobile 'safety partnership' vans and warns of accident black-spots. Unlike the 'Snooper' devices that warn whenever a policeman has a laser fix on you, knowing where danger zones are is entirely legal, nay desirable.

It does not warn of 'red-light' cameras, and I'd be disgusted if it did - after all, you shouldn't be given the impression that it's OK to jump lights as long as you don't get caught. Other alert areas you can chose to be told about include school zones, congestion charging zones and accident black-spots, many of which, curiously don't have a safety camera (what a surprise).

There are facilities to add your own reminders, and even to upload new uncharted cameras to the database

FINE TUNING

As I've implied, to get the best out of it requires a bit of thought; take road preferences for example. Selecting 'shortest route' won't take you to the nearest motorway every time, whereas, 'fastest route' no doubt will. This differs from the MS Autoroute Express method, where you express percentage preferences for road types. Telling it you're a cyclist or even a walker will bias it in completely another direction - yes it's dinky enough to use on the hoof, and there's up to 8 hours battery life to prove it. (Well, with the backlight dimmed or even turned off there is). You can however pause it for the bits you know, saving battery considerably, although after a maximum of 32 hours, expect it to be dead anyway.

Presumably, if you tell it to avoid tolls and ferries this rather rules out going to The Isles Of Wight and Skye at all.

Likewise to get the best out of it, you need good reception, and an external antenna ensures this more or less when mounted in a car. I've only noticed it get 'quirky' when starved of its improved feed, and once it's down below its bare minimum of 3 or 4 satellites in reception quality all hell breaks loose. It tells you you're rotating on the spot, or doing 30 mph when you're not - it doesn't mind telling walkers this either, although normally when out in the open, it behaves itself!

Walkers and cyclist who go completely 'off road' can't expect too much help, unless they zoom out to show which roads surround them. You do still get accurate 'eastings' and 'northings' by which to plot your position on a map (or sea chart - boy, are you ever lost!), and it can still be used to point you to home.

This version only covers the U.K., so don't stray out of our waters. Like an ancient mariner, you'll fall off the edge.

SETTING UP

Apart from the device itself and all its siting options, you'll need a Windows PC to register the device at the www.blackspot.com website.

This does two things - firstly it starts the timer on your one-year warranty, and also on the first 6-month's worth of free 'camera updates'. Curiously, this costs £3.99 in subsequent months, or £49 per annum (?), which is a bit like one of those 'stand on a milk-crate till a copper comes' sales pitches I once heard. 'Thirty P, yer lighters or three fer a pahnd'. I'd advise the monthly option even if it isn't cheaper. Bear in mind that an annual subscription only starts in 6 month's time, when the warranty is already half played out - suppose that the thing packs up just outside its warranty period; do you seriously think you'll get a rebate of you subs?

Secondly it points you in the direction of the software you'll need, when updating the camera database.

As this and many other satnavs, is based on a PDA, for its sins, it runs the Windows CE operating system in the background. This involves installing MS ActivSync, designed to 'speak' to PDAs via a USB link, and send address book data and the like to-and-fro.

Then you install the actual Blackspot software which enables camera updates. Regular travellers are advised to run this once a fortnight.

NIGGLES

If you only want it to show you where you are, rather than track a route, you have to dive two layers deep into the menu system otherwise four menu 'buttons' take up 20% of the screen on the left*. It doesn't help that the RA 6000 only has a 3.5" (diagonal) screen, in a 4:3 format. Still, if it were to be any bigger, it wouldn't be any use to walkers and cyclists and at least it's not wedge-shaped like TomToms - that really would lead to a 'Mae West moment'. "Mmmmm, is that a piece of Edam/TomTom in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?"

(*Apparently, I've been led into buying a 'version 1', (ah so that's why it was 80 quid cheaper than elsewhere!) whilst version 2 addresses this issue with daintier on-screen buttons.)

The 12-volt adapter does not plug directly into the satnav, but into the mounting bracket. Mains-charging is done via a mini-USB plug. Why they couldn't have standardised on this is beyond me. It more or less means that is HAS to be mounted when in the car, unless you know you've enough battery charge to last out your journey. Either that or use someone else's charger, e.g. my Motorola phone charger with mini-USB.

There's no way to change the voices, much as the current one is very neutral and well-spoken.

The '3-D' setting doesn't really add much to the detail and makes it even harder to watch when you take a sharp bend and it tries to redraw the perspective.

I suspect a lot of this is down to its using Windows CE in background, which must be a heavy 'overhead' on resources.

The 'toothpick' stylus, stored at the back is difficult to remove one-handed, especially for nail-biters. Fortunately, touching the screen with a 'v1.0 Man-Machine-Interface' (finger) works too.

Leaving the Mobile Camera Van alert switched on is a pain. If you live in a tightly packed area, at sometime, there will probably have been a spotting of one of these just about everywhere for long enough to get it reported to the database. I recently plodded the streets of Hampton Hill looking for a likely parking spot, under the impression that whichever way I turned I was being watched.

This highlights a problem that I identified when I wrote about my 'camera bleeper' previously. It's easy to assume that cameras will only get more numerous (true), but the mechanism for getting non-extant camera sites removed seems less satisfactory. It's quite common to get warned that you're 20 mph over a 50 mph limit that isn't there - probably the result of their actually finishing some long-term motorway road-works on time. I've even spotted the four bolts where the camera pylon used to be fixed to the ground!

With only a 256 megabyte SD chip for storage, the very idea of using the RA 6000 to store photos and mp3 files is laughable, as would playing the latter back through the coat-button sized speaker.

CONCLUSION - DAMNING WITH FAINT PRAISE

If actual navigation is your first priority, then RA 6000 only just about does it properly and no doubt aficionados will have their own favourites.

Ironically, it seems better at guiding you to fairly local post-codes, say if you're a supply teacher or delivery driver, than it is at finding Dundee from Dover. In fairness, since hitching it to an external aerial and getting to grips with the 'preferences' it's been a lot better. I haven't tried it yet in any of central London's 'canyons' though.

Reading between the lines, most satnavs are like this to a lesser or greater extent and it's probably because the human brain is vastly superior, especially when things go pear-shaped that we notice the glaring glitches. When we are forced to wander off the prescribed route, we don't do U-turns, although maybe sometimes we should. We re-assess, we improvise and go on.

If we're female, we even ask the way.

Obviously satnav is just a gadget for men, to save them the loss of face.

Its ability to warn you of impending speed cameras is highly valuable and seemingly highly accurate at a reasonable price…….

……..which is where I came in - with a criminal record.


REVISED JUNE 2007

Now that I’ve had the chance to use the Road Angel on many long runs I’d make the following observations.

The more out-of-date the map gets, the less useful the voice guidance becomes. In Pembroke I was told to turn right towards No Entry signs – fortunately the route recalculation took mere seconds when it realised that I’d gone the ‘wrong’ or rather right way in my case. Regular updates only keep the list of speed traps current, not the map.

This also manifests itself on roundabouts. I’ve lost count of the number of times it’s said ‘At the next roundabout, take the third exit’ when it turns out to be the fourth. Looking at the screen is still accurate when it comes to showing you the route through the roundabout – it’s just that the town planners have allowed another out-of-town Tescos to be built, complete with access to the roundabout.

When planning a long journey, programme it in and then set it to pause until you get to the unfamiliar bits, otherwise you’ll only get upset when it tells you you’re going the wrong way on roads you know.

On the subject of roundabouts, those mini ones that have been built into what was a large one previously cause all kinds of confusion – you’re never quite sure if it’s referring to the mini or the major roundabout. Entering Swindon is particularly good fun, doubly so as it also refused to let me know when I’d reached the postcode area of the Steam Museum, leaving me like the Flying Dutchman, doomed to sail these waters for ever!

If you’re already lost, like me last week in Stroud, Gloucs, wait for it to pick up satellites before setting off. If you head in the wrong direction for somewhere 5 miles away (Nailsworth), you’ll be taken up country lanes, be told to keep turning right till you’re dizzy and find that you’re now 10 miles away!

Nerd Alert! The Road Angel also has major rail routes marked, so you can use it on the train to plot progress and speed, if you can get a window seat that is.

It’s also useful for walking, although recently, whilst on the Dorset Coastal Path, it told me I’d fallen in the sea. Yes, I was close to the cliff edge but not that close. I put that down to the fact that it was having a bad satellite day, and only had three with which to triangulate my position. It perked up a bit later, and put me back on dry land just in time to help me find a pub for lunch so I forgave it! 

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Disadvantages: Very poor routing & frequent crashes

...no surprise that a cheaper Road Angel has been released. I bought this unit because it included (ha! ha!) Northern Ireland, where I was about to visit. This unit combines black-spot/speed camera warnings with a navigator. The warnings are pretty good, but the audible warning of an average speed area becomes an annoyance when you travel along a 70 mile route which seems to be one big average speed area! What You Get ------------------- The unit ...
...We were travelling a road well populated with roundabouts and the dear lady in the box kept telling us to take the 3rd exit, when, in fact, we needed the 2nd. At one point it directed us up a one way street the wrong way! Sometimes you'll be told to turn left, but the map shows that you should turn right. All too often the RA got stuck in speed camera mode, which meant it was impossible to set routing. The camera icon appear over the required up/down ... Read review

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30.08.2006
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Angel On Your Windscreen
Review of Road Angel Navigator 6000 by bazzaoleary77

Advantages: Great Price
Disadvantages: Very Slow to load

...you. I bought the Road Angel 6000 from Halfords about 9 months ago it set me back £185 which was at the time an opening offer for this system I believe it now retails at £210. I declined the offer from staff to assist me in setting it up in my car outside as it appeared very easy to install and indeed it was. What was Included Sat Nav System Multi Directional Stand SD Card USB Cable Instructions Once I had a quick look through the instructions ...
...the country since purchasing the Road Angel 6000 and have always found it easy to use and very accurate in getting me to my destination. BlackSpot and Speed Camera Add On The Black Spot and Speed Camera addition was also being given away in the price when I purchased this part of the system I do have some problems with. It picks up Black Spot areas easily and accuratly but it is constantly telling me that there is a mobile police van near even ... Read review

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24.01.2007
Road Angel Navigator 6000 with Blackspot
Review of Road Angel Navigator 6000 by kb277

Advantages: Speed camera warnings, accident blackspot warning, gets you there
Disadvantages: annoying audible in average speed camera area

I bought a road angel navigator 6000 a little over a year ago now, i got it second hand for £50 as it had no sd card that contain the maps included, i was quite happy as my friend had one of these with the sd card so i figured i could just make a copy of his card, insert it and away i go. This is what i did and hey presto off we go no problem at all. To be honest i don't actually find the 6000 to bad although i notice a few people have come up with ...
...limit on the stretch of road leading to prestwick international airport but the road is that well sign posted with the correct speed limit that it is not much of a concern as the 6000 was telling me it was a 40mph limit when it was a 50mph limit so no big problem. It also has a blackspot database built in which warns you in plenty of time of areas on roads where accidents are more prone to occur due to an up to date list installed of frequent crash/accident ... Read review

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10.04.2008
Road Angel6000
Review of Road Angel Navigator 6000 by Hsaxo

Advantages: Speed Camera Detector, Hold onto windscreen well
Disadvantages: Slow to start, load routes and enitially gain a satalite signal

Bought one of these when tomtom was lent to my parents, is not as good as i'd expected, slow to load routes, start and get satalite fix. Also the menu is very complicated and doesn't appear to charge very well. Has sent us some weird routes to get to our destination but i think thats a general satalite navigation thing with all brands as most of them use the same mapping systems. On he good side it does have a good holder for sticking it to the ...
...has to be the speed camera detector has never failed yet allows plenty of time for breaking sometimes before we have even seen the camera. Has a effective sound to warn you of cameras and tells you what speed limit applies for the area which the speed camera is in. Also has a usefull anti glare night mode. I wouldn't recommend buying one unless it was mainly the spee camera detector you were purchasing it for as the tomtom is a far better choice ... Read review

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18.03.2008
Road Angel Navigator 6000
Review of Road Angel Navigator 6000 by bigfil

Advantages: Tough, simple to use and lots of features.
Disadvantages: Recharging takes a while. Sluggish finding intial GPS on start up.

...the memory to upload to Road Angel later and get added to the database for other users. It has various alerts that can be switched on and off at will. One of the most useful is the warning that you have exceeded a set speed. Useful to keep you to a set speed limit and if you come across any cameras that have not been entered in the database yet! ... Read review

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Road Angel Navigator 6000

General

Product Type: GPS receiver

MPN: RA-NAV-6000

Gps system

Recommended Use: Automotive

Connectivity: USB

Voice: Navigation instructions

Aerial: Built-in

Features: Optional external GPS aerial connection, speed limit warning, 2D / 3D map perspective

Supported Memory Cards: SD Memory Card

Speed Camera Warning: Built-in

Navigation

Trip Computer: Street address search

Built-in display

Type: LCD

Colour Support: Colour

Features: Touch screen

Connections

Connector Type:

  • USB
  • Antenna

Manufacturer's product description

The Road Angel Navigator 6000 offers you everything the original Road Angel Navigator offers and much much more. The Road Angel Navigator 6000 can be used solely as a safety camera device for those familiar journeys or combining safety camera detection and Sat Nav for those not so familiar journeys. Making it work hard for you all day, every day. Guiding you with the latest easy to use touch screen mapping of the UK, including full postcode search straight to the door. Guarding you with Road Angel's unique full screen Driver Safety System and award winning database of Accident Blackspots and Safety Cameras to ensure a trouble free journey.

Battery

Battery Enclosure Type: Internal

Run Time (Up To): 4 hour(s)

Miscellaneous

Included Accessories: Car power adapter, car holder

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