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5 Oct 17th, 2001  (Oct 18th, 2001)

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Small, excellent battery life, flexible

Disadvantages:
Poor headphones, can't get it off my girlfriend

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Well, I’ve owned my little mini-disc recorder for about 6 weeks and I still haven’t figured out why I brought the little beastie! I know that I’ve always wanted one and finally took the plunge a few weeks ago, but when I try and pin down WHY I wanted one or why I finally bought it, I’m a bit stumped. Maybe I’ll be able to tell you when I’ve finished writing this!

So, probably best to start at the beginning and tell you what “Mini-disc” is.

Well, Minidisc is a fairly new format for storing and recording and storing music. It was invented by Sony and released onto the market back in 1993. If you’ve never seen a minidisc, they are like little CD’s, about 7cms in diameter and encased in a plastic cover to protect them from dust and the possibility of being scratched. The whole thing looks a bit like like a small 3 1/2” diskette, but infinitely cuter and much trendier, especially if you get the coloured ones that are available!

OK, now you know what they look like, what’s so special about minidisc as a recording format than say cassette, MP3 or CD? Well, without going into too much depth (I’m sure I can squeeze another op and that 10p out of this material) a minidisc is extremely flexible. Sony claim you can rerecord on the same disc up to a million times without losing any sound quality, I haven’t actually tested this yet, but I’m working on it, ask me about it in around 200 years! The discs themselves are very small, durable and portable, and only cost around £1.50 each as blanks. When recording from a digital source such as a CD you are making a digital copy, so the sound quality should be the same as the original, and they are extremely flexible in that you can move tracks around once they have been recorded, delete individual tracks without leaving huge blank spaces and insert new tracks between your existing material, try doing that with a cassette. A lot of people are attracted to MP3 as you can download music for free off the internet, and granted that is very attractive but to play that music on the move you will need a portable MP3 player, which is expensive, more so if you buy more memory for it to be able to listen to more tracks. Part of the beauty of minidisc is that you can record MP3 tracks onto a minidisc and play them back, negating the need for a separate MP3 player. Pretty cool eh!

I know you can also do this onto a CD with the aid of a CD-Writer, but Minidiscs are smaller and less prone to damage, and as mentioned before you can record over anything at anytime without damaging the discs or any of the other content on the disc. Basically they are the ultimate in flexible digital recording.

Now there are loads of minidisc players and recorders out on the market, from stand-alone models to attach to your existing stereo system, integrated mini and midi hi-fi units with a minidisc player/recorder and portable minidisc players and player/recorders. Which one you buy will depend on what your requirements are.


So with all those different minidisc players and recorders out there, why did I plump for this particular model, the Sony MZ-R500? Well, not already owning a minidisc system I needed on that will record, there’s not much point owning a minidisc player if you’ve got nothing to play on it, and while you can get hold of pre-recorded minidiscs, they are not very widely available and cost a lot of money, so the major use I will get out of the format is from recording my existing music collection (CD’s, MP3’s, cassettes and vinyl) onto blank minidiscs. I plumped for a portable recorder so I could listen to these minidiscs on the move.

OK, we’ve narrowed my needs down to a portable recorder, but why buy this particular model from all those out there?

First and foremost it had a feature known as MDLP, standing for MiniDisc Long Play. Basically this is a way of digitally compressing your recordings so you can get up to 4 times as much music on a single minidisc. So, on a single 80 minute minidisc you can record up to 320 minutes of music. That’s over 5 hours of tunes on a single disc, pretty impressive don’t you think. With this much storage I’ve managed to get my entire Bluetones collection on one disc. Admittedly they’ve only released 3 albums and around 14 singles, but you’d struggle to get all that on a single cassette! The only problem with MDLP is, like a long-play video, you can’t play a minidisc recorded using MDLP back on a normal minidisc player, you have to use a player capable of reading MDLP discs. For me that’s not much of a problem, as I’ve only got this one minidisc recorder that has MDLP capability, but if you already have a minidisc player and record using this MDLP facility, you’re not going to be able to play it back on your existing system, a minor annoyance but something to consider. The MZ-R500 has four different recording modes
1. Stereo - Normal i.e. 80 minutes recording time
2. LP2 - Double compression i.e 160 minutes recording time
3. LP4 - You guessed it, quadruple compression, 320 minutes recording time
4. Mono - A mono rather than stereo recording, gives 160 minutes recording on each disc.
All these assume you’re using an 80 minutes minidisc (they come in two versions, 74 or 80 minute)

Now the manual does say you may experience some loss of quality with LP4 recording, but I’ve recorded quite a few things using each of the modes (a bit anoraky I know!) and can honestly say I can’t notice the difference. There may be some of you out there with a much better trained ear than me (it wouldn’t be difficult!) but for the rest of you bunch, the quality is pretty much the same.


Obviously I was also looking for a machine that doesn’t chew up batteries. One with a rechargeable lithium ion battery would have been preferable, but within my price range of £150 I couldn’t find any! Anyway, the MZ-R500 gives up to 48 hours of playback off a single AA battery, which is a heck of a lot longer than I've ever got out of my portable CD player! It boasts G-protection, which is just a fancy name for an anti-shock mechanism which ensures your music doesn’t jog as much as your beer belly when you’re out running! The MZ-R500 gives you up to 40 seconds of anti-shock protection, and unlike some anti-shock systems I’ve seen and experienced, this one actually seems to work.

Now this is going to sound a bit shallow, but it also looks pretty cool. I know looks shouldn’t be important, but if I’m spending £150 on a machine I don’t want it looking like a brick. the MZ-R500 comes in three colours, silver, black or blue and I went for the silver model, which looks pretty stylish. The machine is only slightly larger than the size of a blank minidisc, and only weighs 113g (without a battery) so sits quite snugly in a shirt top pocket. The look is slightly spoiled by a bulge to the rear of the machine where the cover for the single AA battery is, but it still looks like a pretty funky little beast.

It has a small LCD display on the front which will display things such as the track playing, the current playing/recording mode, battery life left, title of tracks, time left, time elapsed, whether the bass is on etc. This is only a small display but is easy to read as long as it is light, as unfortunately there is no back light facility, so be careful when playing those minidiscs in the dark!

Oh, and it also comes with an optical cable, pretty useful if you want to do digital recordings, and having one in the box will probably save you around £10. This is another thing to consider when buying a minidisc. To make digital recordings from your hi-fi you need it to have an optical digital out socket, and not all hi-fis have this. I’ve been after a minidisc recorder for some time so ensured my hi-fi had one of these when I bought it. All is not lost if your system doesn’t have one as you can still record from CD’s using a line cable, although it will be an analogue recording and you may lose some sound quality.

As well as all this, it’s made by Sony. These guys have a reputation for building top quality audio gear at a reasonable price, and seeing as they invented the format in the first place, you’d like to think they are pretty up to speed when it comes to building minidisc players and recorders. On top of all this I bought it at Debenhams, so I got a two year warranty which even covers accidental damage, handy if like me you;ve a tendency to drop things!

So, that’s why I bought this particular model. but I’ve also found out it has loads of other nifty features.

It has the usual stuff like AVLS, Audio Volume Limiting System and keeps down the maximum volume played through the headphones, ensuring you don’t burst your eardrums if you inadvertently turn up the volume too loud. It has Digital Mega Bass which “intensifies the sound for richer quality audio reproduction” or in plain speak, give your tracks a kicking bass beat!. It sports a neat hold button, which stops buttons from being accidentally operated when you are carrying the recorder, so you can’t inadvertently turn up the volume or change the track you are listening too, useful if you’re carrying the machine round in your pocket.

There are a whole heap of things you can do with your recordings. As mentioned before you can erase individual tracks without leaving great gaps in your music, you can even erase the whole disc at the touch of a button, although this can be a very annoying feature if you don’t mean to delete everything, as I found out after three hours of putting together a really great mix tape. Back to the drawing board for that one! You can add and erase track marks at will (and I don’t mean the track marks associated with drug abuse!!!) saving the best for last, you can change the order of tracks so if something was third in the track listing and you wanted to move it to the front, no problem, easily done at the touch of a button. Pretty nifty eh!

You can also label all your tracks and discs, putting in track listings or album titles, up to 200 characters per track. The only problem with this is to label a track you have to either be playing or recording it, and it can be a real pest finding all the different characters so this is a very time consuming job.

Well, that’s pretty comprehensive don’t you think? But after all this description, what do I actually think of the damned thing? Well, I’m very impressed and I don't know why I left it so long to buy a minidisc recorder. The format itself is so flexible, being able to record from so many different sources and also allowing you to edit these recording to your hearts content. The sound quality is excellent and the media (i.e. blank minidiscs) are very reasonably priced.

For the money the MZ-R500 is an excellent machine. It’s packed with features, is stylish and has an excellent anti-shock mechanism. The batteries seem to last forever and it comes with an AC adaptor if you’re using it in the home. My only gripes are the lack of a lithium ion battery (solved by spending more money on a better model!) and the headphones which are very basic and a little uncomfortable if used for a long time. If I’m spending £150 on a machine I would usually expect something better. Still, this was easily solved by a trip to Argos for some decent headphones.

But ultimately the reason I wanted one has now come back to me. I just thought they were very cool! Having owned one for a few weeks I still think this, and I’m very happy with my purchase.

Now if I can only get it back off my girlfriend I’ll be able to enjoy it more!!!!

Specs:-

Sony MZ-R500
Dimensions - 83 x 27.8 x 75.8mm
Weight - 113g (without battery)
Anti-shock - 40 second g-protection
Power - 1 x AA battery or 230V Mains using AC Adaptor supplied
Sampling Frequency - 48kHz Rec /PB 
Sampling Frequency - 44.1kHz Rec /PB   
Sampling Frequency - 32kHz Rec/PB (no, I’ve no idea what these mean either!)
Digital In (special connector) - Optical digital mini jack 
Headphone Out - 2 x 5mW / 16 Ohm

Price - List £149.99, available for less if you shop around (as always!)
 

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Lgair 22.10.2001 12:10

Wow, over 320 minutes, that is impressive! One day, I might buy myself one..but not yet. Great op. Lisa

Defiler 17.10.2001 21:19

Great opinion, I've always wanted an MD player but never really got around to buying one. For what I want though I'm thinking that a high memory MP3 player may be better, 20GB of storage is very tempting.

PeterFarrell 17.10.2001 20:33

An EXCELLENT opinion, you've convinced me why MP3 players are the way forward. I don't think I'll be getting one just yet, but it is definately worth considering. I like the ability to record from so many different sources and the length of recordings. Keep the great opinions coming, Pete

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