It takes a special brand of incompetence to force me back into the arms of the cretins at BT. Yet somehow Talk Talk managed to frustrate me to the point I was clawing at BT Towers' door in desperation, like a dog with a bladder infection.
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It takes a special brand of incompetence to force me back into the arms of the cretins at BT. Yet somehow Talk Talk managed to frustrate me to the point I was clawing at BT Towers' door in desperation, like a dog with a bladder infection.
I moved in with my girlfriend in April, which should have been a joyous experience. Except when I plugged my laptop in and tried to contact the router.
"Oh, the broadband's never ... ...replied incredulously.
"Well I've tried to get it working but it only stays connected for five minutes at a time - if you're lucky"
This for me was kind of like being told the place had no running water, or half a roof.
Now I've stumbled down the broadband technical support route many times with many companies, and I have to say I wasn't really expecting Talk Talk to blow my mind with swift ... more
It takes a special brand of incompetence to force me back into the arms of the cretins at BT. Yet somehow Talk Talk managed to frustrate me to the point I was clawing at BT Towers' door in desperation, like a dog with a bladder infection.
I moved in with my girlfriend in April, which should have been a joyous experience. Except when I plugged my laptop in and tried to contact the router.
"Oh, the broadband's never really worked" my girlfriend interjected.
"Sorry?" I replied incredulously.
"Well I've tried to get it working but it only stays connected for five minutes at a time - if you're lucky"
This for me was kind of like being told the place had no running water, or half a roof.
Now I've stumbled down the broadband technical support route many times with many companies, and I have to say I wasn't really expecting Talk Talk to blow my mind with swift and succinct answers to the problems. Another thing I wasn't really expecting was a four month tale of unadulterated agony, but presumably they were running a two for one promotion at Talk Talk for frustrating customer experiences.
First problem: foreign call centre. Again. Talk Talk do what many service companies do in first beaming your call to a land far, far away to a 'first tier technical support team'. Now remove the last five words and replace them with 'department of patronising and sometimes indecipherable script readers'. Here's an excerpt of the conversation to illustrate: -
"Are you sitting in front of your computer, Sir?" "Er, yes." "Is your modem powered up and connected to your PC correctly?" "Yes." "Is your modem connected to the phone socket?" "YES." "Is the…" "Look, thanks very much for your help, but I know my way around a computer and I've checked everything. I've interchanged the laptops, the cables, the routers, the phone points, the filters and the router configuration. There is almost definitely a problem with the line" "Sir, if you could allow me to finish my support questions I can assist you further."
[sigh]
[pause]
"…Is the ADSL light solid green?" "Look, the connection is intermittent on both laptops and both routers when wireless or wired, so it's almost certainly not a hardware problem" "Intermittens?" "Forget it. Yes, the light is green, but then it's not."
These people will not let you discuss the problem until you have answered their entire ream of mindless questions. They grimly insist upon it. Why? When you phone the AA to say your car has broken down, do they ask you if you are sitting in the car? Whether you've turned the key in the ignition? Do they ask if the car still has four wheels or if the handbrake is on? No; they send a mechanic out to fix the bloody car.
To cut this section short (there's LOTS more you'll be pleased to know), once I had finally completed the I.T. for dummies questionnaire they beamed me all the way back to Blighty and their second level support team. They altered the bandwidth of my line as they suspected it was unsuitable and causing instability. Now I have to say at this point that these people were at least affable and sounded knowledgeable. I also have to say that was the one and only positive thing I'm going to mention.
For a few glorious hours it seemed to have done the trick. I gorged myself on the internet, gleefully checking emails and such like there was no tomorrow. I think the rational part of my brain suspected that things could go the way of the pear at any moment, as each click of a hyperlink was met with a flinch in anticipation of "Page Cannot Be Displayed". Amazingly it held for the evening. I slept easy that night.
Next Morning:
"Page Cannot Be Displayed"
B*******. Whatever the genius at second level support had done to my line, it clearly hadn't worked.
I called back. Back to Numbnutistan, that is.
"Are you sitting in front of your computer, Sir?" "Really, there's no need for this, I've already spoken to your second level support team." "Is there a support ticket outstanding, Sir? "No. They thought they'd fixed the problem but now I can't connect again." "Then I will need to ask you a few questions to enable me to progress the call."
[audible sigh]
"Look, I'm an I.T. Manager (total lies), I can assure you it's a problem with the line." "Sir, I still need to check some configurations on your computer before we can proceed."
[bigger sigh]
"This is totally unnecessary." "I'm sorry, Sir?" "NEVER MIND." "Is your modem powered up and connected to your PC correctly?"
Despite the temptation to launch our hamster across the room in a fit of frustration, I bit my tongue and attained my second stage of the I.T. incompetents' course.
Back to Blighty.
As an aside, I found being called 'Sir' after every third sentence intensely irritating. To my mind if you're being called Sir, it suggests that the service being provided is first rate. You get called Sir in a classy restaurant or plush hotel where you pay good money for good service. Being called Sir in these circumstances is like being given a silk shirt to wear while you unblock the drains.
Essentially, they did a similar thing as before, but this time the connection was lightning fast. Better still, they gave me a direct number to call so I could avoid Numbnutistan again, just in case. Great, I thought - a direct line to the technical support organ-grinders. Yet the next development only made me want to grind my own organs: in a f***ing mincer.
"Page Cannot Be Displayed."
I called the second level support hotline number I'd been given. A disturbingly familiar sounding accented voice met my disbelieving ears: -
"Hello Sir"
This time, the fury erupted volcanically, like a Mount Etna of resentment raining liquid malice down on the poor customer support operative's unsuspecting head. I don't usually do this as I understand a company's support policies are not the staff's doing (I did explain that I appreciated it wasn't his fault, although I'm sure this was of no consolation to him). Taken aback by my tirade, or maybe genuinely concerned I was one more inane question away from booking a flight to Numbnutistan to slaughter them all, I was fast-tracked to second level support.
Now we reach the most farcical event, which entailed an (in hindsight hilarious) three-way conversation between a 'technical engineer' a 'second level support operative', and me. And a screwdriver. And my wall.
For some inexplicable reason I wasn't allowed to speak to the engineer in person, so each step was relayed to me by the operative, whose only purpose in this triangle of stupid was to pass messages back and forth between us like we'd had some kind of lovers tiff. The inspired plan was to remove the faceplate of my primary phone socket and attempt to connect to my secondary socket. Suffice to say this only: -
1) Made a mess 2) Didn't work 3) Stiffened my resolve to cancel my contract
On my knees, with my front room in utter chaos and still no closer to the Promised Land, I asked what my options were. The operative told me there was a problem on my line outside the property and that as it was still B.T.'s line they'd need to charge me £160 to have a technician visit. These were B.T.'s terms he said, not theirs. In an act of sheer cunning I asked what would happen if I was to terminate my broadband contract (due to expire the following month) and sign up to B.T. then complain about the fault: -
"Well, then the line maintenance would be free."
"Erm, can I speak to your cancellations department please?"
But Talk Talk weren't finished here. Oh, no - the Pièce de résistance was saved for last - a glorious cherry to sit atop my special cake, iced lovingly with 'Happy Crappy Customer Service'.
When you switch to Talk Talk for your line rental and calls, they tag the line. This means you can't switch your broadband provider without switching everything. Line rental, calls and all. So because of the broadband issue, we were going to lose our calling circle and our international calls. I couldn't be without broadband though, so I terminated everything and called B.T. It was like returning home to your parents from a failed relationship they warned you about, with that told-you-so tone in their voice. Damn you Talk Talk, damn you.
Two weeks passed. The changeover happened. Perfect Broadband. No problem with the line, the speed, nothing. Looking contemplatively at my battered phone socket, I pondered the inventive things I could do with my screwdriver and Talk Talk's Technical Support Department.
I arrived home from work the following night to find a Talk Talk envelope on the mat. A final bill, perhaps? Yes, a final bill; including a £70 early termination charge and £3 for cancelling my Direct Debit. After I'd retrieved my jaw from the floor and re-read the bill several times to check I wasn't hallucinating, I readied myself for one final duel with the Talk Talk Customer Support Team. I checked behind the curtains to make sure this wasn't some elaborate hoax - I half expected a team of actors dressed in Talk Talk T-Shirts to emerge laughing and extending conciliatory hands. But Beadle was long gone by this point. This must be real.
"Sir, your broadband contract was expired but you have six months to run on your line rental." "But you told me I can't have broadband without line rental, so why would you give me two contracts that expire at different times?" "You have six months to run." "But your service didn't work, so I had to change it." "I don't know anything about that, there are no notes." "Do you have some notes about me dismantling my front room for no apparent reason?" "Sorry?" "Look, I'm not paying this fee, so please feel free to take me to court. I'd be delighted to explain this situation to a judge." "The terms of your contract state-" "And if this is taken any further I will write to your CEO (Charles Dunstone) and explain my catalogue of problems with your terrible company. Can I have your name, please?" "Oh, erm, let me speak to my supervisor."
I received a credit note two weeks later.
Suffice to say I'm not going to recommend this service on any level. Dealing with Talk Talk is such an exhausting, life sapping experience it should be part of SAS training. Never before have a company managed to wear me out not just on a mental level but a physical level too. If the screwdriver incident wasn't so farcically funny I'm sure I would have planted the thing in my ear to bring an end to the chaos. It took Charles Dunstone and his partner just £6,000 in 1989 to set up parent company Carphone Warehouse; clearly it takes two decades of dedication to create the shambolic, big trousers and braces, custard pie-lobbing circus act that is the customer support function.
I am not a customer of Talk Talk and after my experiences with them would never ever be. My parents who are 80 joined Talk Talk a few months ago, up to a month ago no problems. Then one morning there phone was dead, my mum called me from a phone box asking me to report it to Talk Talk for them. She gave me a freephone number to use, as she had been trying to get throught for ages with no joy.
Finally after a 30 minute wait, I managed to get through ... ...line. I was told I had to ring a different number as my parents line had been transferred to a different unit because they are having Broadband installed. I explained that my parents didn't have Broadband, but Customer Services were not having any of it and gave me a number beginning with 0870.
I tried the 0870 number and held for 40 minutes listening to the normal 'sorry all our operators are busy' then finally the phone clicked and I was disconnected. ...
allyoxley 04.10.2006
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Advantages: Cheaper than BT and no monthly fees. You're likely to save a bit of money. Disadvantages: 'Number witheld', line noise, 0870 contact number, clueless customer services.
...hassle, my sister is on TalkTalk already. The company offer everyone one 'call a friend for free' number which you can ring as often as you like for nothing, as long as your call is less than three hours long. It seemed to make sense to be able to phone her for nothing, and vice versa, rather than paying BT's 6p per hour Option 1 charge.
I also decided that whatever savings I could make were worth making. My last BT bill was bigger than the previous ... ...paying so much every quarter. TalkTalk only allows you to pay via Direct Debit, but the payments are monthly, and so come as less of a shock. I was also unimpressed that BT often gave less than a week to make payment, whereas TalkTalk promise to bill 14 days before payment is taken from your account.
Having said all that, I had heard nightmare stories about TalkTalk before signing up, and may have chosen another operator had my sister not been a ...
antsss 16.12.2003
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Advantages: A clear phone Line Disadvantages: You dont get the services you are promised, customer services are rubbish
Nearly a year ago we moved into our new home and at the time the only telephone and internet provider was Sky, so we signed up with them for one year, we took all three services that they were providing so as well as the phone and internet they also provided us with their television package. For the television we paid £26, for our phone line we paid £11 and after the first three months we paid £6.50 for our internet. and the bills were on a monthly ... ...the tv channels in the bad weather but everything else was fine, the internet was great and we very rarely had any connection problems. The only small problem was that we were paying £46 per month before our telephone calls.
I often said that I would like to try another provider but apart from anything else we were tied into a year's contract with Sky so I didn't bother looking for another provider, anyway we had reached nearly twelve months with ...
jenny967 23.10.2009
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Advantages: cheaper calls, easy to transfer Disadvantages: no payment options
Talktalk is the new home phone company from the carphone warehouse, it was set up last year and their aim is to let you talk for free and undercut BT! I was very skeptical at first and assumed the process would be a hassle as there are so many home phone companies out there. I thought there would be prefix numbers and problems with the line. Anyway to cut a long story short I received an incentive to sign up (i.e. I got paid!) so never one to turn ... ...When you sign up for talktalk they basically take over your BT landline, they use a carrier pre selection which allows them to become the main service provider for this line. You do not need to change your number or install a box or use a pre fix number you just carry on using the phone as normal, the only difference is you pay talktalk for the calls and hopefully save money. To use talktalk you must have a BT landline and you still have to pay your ...
sarahpervin 03.07.2004
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Advantages: It's free to talk to other users Disadvantages: None yet
I have spent the last couple of years looking out for any possible way to save money. It’s not that I am a skinflint, but I don’t see that point in paying over the odds for anything.
I have had my phone calls with a couple of different providers who were cheaper that BT, but the 0870 numbers tend to be very expensive. More and more companies are switching over to 0870 numbers, so you can’t avoid dialling them.
I received an email from my Dad. He’d ... ...Warehouse. You may have heard the adverts. If you watch Big Brother, you can’t have missed the advertising, but did you take any notice?
“It’s free to Talk Talk!”
So, is it really free? If you want to save some money, then read on.
I checked out their web site, and it looks pretty good. Their call charges are less than BT, and if they are not cheaper, they’ll pay you £1000! Well, that’s me in.
I completed the form online at www.talktalk.co.u ...
Testarossa 27.06.2004
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Advantages: New contract phone every year - new pay-as-you-go phone every year Disadvantages: Your new contract phone has a new telephone number
Here's the deal.
If you have an Orange phone on any contract, you can get a free pay-as-you-go and FREE £5.00 talk credits every year from Orange.
After eleven months on contract, give Orange one month’s notice to terminate your contract for your existing phone and ask them to convert it to Orange Just Talk. Also tell them that you are buying a new phone on contract.
They will happily send you a new Just Talk SIM card with a FREE £5.00 credit. You can keep your old number or be allocated a new one.
At the same time, order yourself a new FREE Orange phone on contract – there is an excellent range for free from companies like mobileshop.com and freedomphones.co.uk. Your new contract phone will have a new telephone number. If you change the answering machine message on your old phone to announce your new number ...
john.sw 17.02.2001 (22.02.2001)
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Advantages: Cost, quality Disadvantages: Customer support time, restriced availability
Telewest provide an excellent phone service, in my opinion far better than BT. Having changed from BT to Telewest about 8 years ago, I have been with them since and have no intention on returning. Don't get me wrong, I know BT have improved a lot since when I left, but the cost of BT is still a lot more expensive.
I am currently on Talk Unlimited. This costs £25.00 per month and includes the phone line rental. Thats not all though - it also gives you unlimited calls 24/7 (excluding premium, mobile and internet). A fantastic price. Also, you could have there Digital TV service for only about £5.00 more! It's a great deal.
The basic call charges (mobile, premium, international, etc) are very good value and represent a fast amount of savings when compared to BT and other competitors. I never worry about have a large phone bill now ...
Infernoid 16.04.2002
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