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Being a member of Ciao since April and a fully paid up petrol head for years plus a mecan, mekcan, mechcan, grease monkey (none of us can spell) for 9 of my woking, sorry working years, the car review is overdue.
So for the first of my motor babblings I'll review my current (but very soon to be ex) set of wheels, my MR2.
I bought Mr T (as it was nicknamed by the girlfriend, dat crazy fool!) just over two years ago after I'd spent the two months before that looking for an Alfa boat tail spider. But found that most of these had rusted and fell apart as soon as they had been driven though a puddle, 70's Alfa's eh?
I'd gone to look at another pile of 70's rust when the dealer also had this MR2 tucked away in his showroom which I'd not considered before as it's Japanese. I'm not saying that Jap cars are bad you understand, they are very good, my father is a Toyota monk, driven them for 20 years, cut him in half it would say Toyota thorough him like a stick of rock. It just that Japanese cars are like white goods, they don't really capture the soul of what driving is about, they are too functional, but not one to judge before I drive them it's on with the tail.
A little research later I decided that a closer inspection was needed of this car as one of the pluses for the MR2, it is a real, proper sports car, even the name MR2 equates to the definition of a sports car layout; M = Mid engined R = Rear wheel drive (the R originally meant 'runabout' but was soon changed) 2 = 2 seater. All this means that it's a package which should be fun, this is the same layout as a Ferrari no less, but sadly that is where the similarity ends. A little point on the name I found funny, in France it's known as Coupe MR as MR2 sounds like "merdeux" which means shit*y.
The model I was viewing was a Mk2 GT (there are currently 3 MR2's, the Mk 1 which is the square, pointy, wedge of cheese shape, the Mk2 bigger, more graceful shape and the Mk 3, roadster, soft top one). If you are going to buy an Mk 2 shape do yourself a favour and get the T-top with leather and air con, come selling time you won't have lost as much as I did. Bought it for £5000, two years and twenty thousand mile put on the clock later, any guesses? £1800! Ouch. I shelled out the 5G which was a bit over priced as it was the 'one owner, low mileage you always wish to find, only had 30k on
the clock when I bought it with a full service history, not bad for a nine year old car.
If you are thinking of buying one here is what you need to look for; Is it an import? Toyota flog these puppies world wide (French don't seem to buy em?) so you will need to check if it's an import from the Land of the rising sun. Heard the term 'grey import'? This means that it's from Japan and not a UK spec car, this in itself has pro's and con's. The Pro's are that they have a different and usually better spec than the British ones, you can have a turbo version if you get a Jap one which is great but the con's? You don't know the full history of the car, it could have been smashed and even written off then repaired but the biggest problem is that it could be stolen. Nicked in Japan and then shipped over here to be reregistered, so beware!
The other downside of imports is some insurance companies won't insure them, never figured out why as it's the same car really? But some don't seem to want to know, check first. You can spot an import as they usually don't have any service history, white indicators with orange bulbs rather than orange lens and the rear number plate is square (two lines on top of one another) rather than all on one line. They will be cheaper than a UK one (mine was £500 more than a similar import) and of course if it's a turbo, they never officially sold them in the UK.
A lot of dealers will sell an import as HPI clear, don't believe it, they are only HPI clear in the UK and could have been 3 different MR2's welded into one over in Japan. My advice? Steer clear and get a UK one. Only buy an import if you are confident that you know what you are getting. Avoid the really high mileage ones, anything yellow or other stupid colours. There is plenty to choose from and of course avoid the ones which have been messed around with by the people who have watched too many episodes of 'Pimp my ride' and think they can do a better job with a set of socket spanners and a £50 Halfords voucher.
Went on a bit there, sorry, right, what you can expect if you still want one and haven't been put of so far; Open the pillar less doors you find a low down seat which needs to be slid into rather than just sitting down into a tight, butt hugging seat. Once in I found that head room was OK (I'm 5'11) and leg room is better than most because the engine is behind you so the designers had room at the front. The driver's seat is fully adjustable but you can't really recline to much as you hit the bulkhead, engine in the back again. The driver's seat also comes with lumbar support which can be wound down to make getting in and out easier and wound right up squeezes you and your kidneys in tight. Can be a little uncomfortable but handy when your giving it some stick through the twisty stuff, your passenger has a handle on the A pillar to stop them flying across and head butting you as the co-captin's seat has no lumbar support. Adjust the mirrors and you find another cloud as the rear visibility ain't great but the silver lining? Out of the rear view mirror you have a view of the engine cooling slats on the err? Bonnet? I guess? And in the rear view mirror you are cutting the cars in half which are following by the spoiler. Not all of the MR2's have the boot spoiler but get one with one on, without it just don't look right. Another week point to check if you're buying one of these is the alternator. Listen for a rumbling sound when the car is idling as when it rains water sits in the engines slats, drive forward it pours straight onto the alternator and knackers it.
Each of the seats are divided by the transmission tunnel which only has the gear linkage and handbrake in it and that gives you a feel of personal space and you don't want it invaded by your travelling companion. An upside of 2 seater cars is that if you have more than 2 of you going for a night out, what better excuse not to drive? You can't fit the people in.
Key in, fire it up and the instrument panel comes to life, it has the regulation speedo, revs, fuel, temp and another gauge I've never really seen the point of, the battery gauge. Why you need a gauge to tell you your battery is flat is beyond me? If your battery is flat your car won't start? I think they put a gauge in there to fill a hole as the clocks were most likely used in a few Toyota models. While we are on the subject of pointless things in this car there is a headlamp level adjuster, this is to lower your headlight beam so you don't dazzle other road users while you are towing a caravan or carrying heavy loads. Towing a caravan? with an MR2? Heavy loads? The boot is just about big enough to fit a slice of toast in and not 10,000 bricks? Last one; window lock. A button which you can lock the electric windows to prevent your passengers, yes passengers, written plural in the handbook, operating the windows. They are sat next to you and if you have bought an MR2 you are unlikely to have kids due to no back seats and if you have a relative with a child whom you are taking for a spin, you are close enough to flick their ear and tell them to stop messing about with the window.
Where were we? Oh right driving it; a fairly light clutch is depressed (don't know what it's upset about?) and the little stubby gear lever snicks into 1st (there are automatic versions but these are rare) you move off to let the fun begin. There is something I love about driving mid-engine cars and that's when you put you foot down in the front, you get the noise right behind you head, grin inducing stuff.
The engine is a 2 litre fuel injected lump producing 174bhp in the version I had but you have to rev the knackers off it to get moving. It red lines at 7500 rpm, a little more than other petrol engines in general but I found and interesting little 'kick' around 5000. This is a sliding vane in the throttle body which when revved hard opens to create a bigger intake to the engine. A teeny bit more power but enough
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to notice a difference and the design is loosely based on a throttle system that Toyota were using an their rally cars in the early 90's, and got banned for it so it must work. Because it's only a 2 litre wheezier it feels slow and underpowered, it will take you to 60 in 7.7 seconds and top out at 140ish, 50 more BHP wouldn't go a miss here but I think you get that if you buy a turbo one. A good point about all engines in these is that they are non-interference build that means that if the timing belt which should be changed every sixty thousand miles snaps it won't do any damage. Car won't drive of course but tow it down to a dealer and they will time it up, put a new belt on and should run. Quite bizarrely the earlier Mk 1 MR2's are faster with the smaller 1.6 engine in, but if you can find an Mk 1 that hasn't rotted away or been 'Pimped' it must be the one Lord Lucan is towing Shergar around in.
Another reason it feels underpowered is because the handling is so good. Corners, corners, corners, this is the reason you (and I) bought this car. Even this now 11 year old car can out corner new faster cars and you find yourself chucking into bends with enthusiasm and doing Murray Walker impressions to yourself. This car has been called a 'Driver's Car' by many a reviewer but I hate that expression, it's like saying a chocolate digestive is an 'Eater's biscuit'? meaningless! It handles so good due to the shocks and springs, get down on your hands and knees and have a look at them. Wide and fat springs only have 2 coils in them, that would give Zeberdee back trouble and the price you pay for the handling? Its gives you back trouble too. Its fine when you are trying to hit the apex of every corner on country lanes but travelling though city centres on the daily grind it's annoying when you can feel every pebble and fag butt you run over and if you hit a pothole? Your flesh falls from your bones.
Another price I found myself paying for this handling is in the tyre department. I've done 20k in my MR2 and in that time it's eaten 2 sets of rear tyres. Each tyre is £120 a go and the Michelins that Toyota recommends soon wear out. This is due to that the rears as they do 70% of the work. The fronts were new when I bought it and still have loads left on them. Another point on the tyres too; sometime around 91/92 Toyota fitted bigger rear tyres to the MR2; apparently people were spinning too easily in the wet. So they replaced the 14inch wheels with bigger 15inch ones, great! solved the spinning problem but what they didn't take into account is the spare wheel. It fits in the front under the, err bonnet? When the early cars all had 14inch wheels you could get a puncture on any corner of the car, fit the spare wheel and put the flat tyre in the front. Guessed it yet? Yep the 15inch wheels don't fit in the front spare wheel well! I found this out after I got a nail in one of the rears and had to drive home with one very pissed off girlfriend holding the flat tyre in-between her and the windscreen. When we got home it was hard to keep a straight face when she was venting her anger with a print of the Michelin man in brake dust on her forehead. Good news is that you can still spin them in the wet if you give it enough throttle in the roundabouts, people said this car is scary in the wet, nahh it's bloody good fun!
You can use this car every day but if your journey is motorway miles you will get tired of the wind noise, tyre noise and the buzzing from the engine. I drove mine to London once and I needed a new set of ears as mine had melted. Boot space? I did make a joke about a slice of toast but if you live on your own and don't have any pets you may just squeeze a shopping load in but forget anything bigger than a candle from Ikea. Insurance can be costly or cheap, depends on your postcode and if you've been naughty before, etc. Mine was reasonable at £410 for the year but do watch out who is insured on your MR2. My father was insured and many a weekend it had disappeared as he was starting a mid-life crisis and decided he didn't need to buy a sports car as he could nick mine, git.
Fairly cheap to run, but you do get through the petrol, don't know what the manufactures say but I got between 17-25 MPG, not bad but with a little fuel tank you can seem to be filling it up a lot.
The MR2 could have been excellent but seems to fall short of the mark somehow. Don't get me wrong I loved having a car with flip-upheadlamps, every car should have them as there're cool but sadly when it comes to being a cool car only 8 year old kids who've mistaken it for something more expensive and faster think it's cool. If you look past the badge and the image you'll wonder what all the fuss is about. It's a cracking car to drive and its good fun. I've enjoyed my 2 years of ownership and the only thing I've had to pay for outside of consumables is a radiator, you can't knock Toyota on the reliability front. But my time with Mr T is at an end and I'm going back to my first love of Italian style. I've bought an Alfa but it's an late 90's early 00's one so the rust shouldn't be a concern. It will still break down of course but at least it won't be rusty, if you are interested to see how I get on with the Alfa the review will be on Ciao soon.
Prices for an MR2 start from around £1000 and you can bag yourself a low mileage with a full service history for £3500-£4000. Most of them will have been thrashed but the little coupe seems to cope quite well with the abuse, drive a couple first to see how they feel and have a think before you buy one as to if you could live with it if you are using it everyday.
I've recommended this car to buyers above as I do think a car standing alone it's good, very good. If you asked me what to get when buying an MR2 I'll go over the points above, if, on the other hand you were to ask me what to buy in a sporty little 2nd car for a bit of fun for around five grand? Then I'd tell you to have a look at the MazdaMX5 first.
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I WAS FEELING A BIT DOWN TONIGHT BUT YOUR REVIEW REALLY CHEERED ME UP. THE VISUAL I GOT OF YOUR YOUNG LADY WITH A TYRE MARK ON HER HEAD MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD, THAT USUALLY ONLY HAPPENS WHEN I READ TERRY PRATCHETT.
WELL DONE.
kmc25_1 24.05.2006 17:13
Brilliant review. A well deserved Diamond.
TheChocolateLady 05.10.2005 18:16
Not exactly the car for a family of 5, but a lovely review. Bravo on the diamond.
Advantages: Handling developbed by Lotus, stuning looks, perfect reliability. A1 examples still under £5,000. Disadvantages: Rust kills most of them, lots of very rough examples out there - especialy T-Bars.
gafr21 15.10.2009 ·
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