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Advantages Influential, interesting from a range of perspectives

Disadvantages Not an easy read, what is it?

I think most people are familiar with the term utopia, and its use to describe "any real or imaginary state or place believed to be ideal, perfect, excellent" (Chambers dictionary). Probably far fewer are familiar with Sir Thomas More's tract of 1516, which first coined the term - which is a shame, because the society described therein is by no means obviously 'utopian' in the modern sense - our usage has come a long way from the original sense.

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The very etymology of the word 'utopia' is fraught with ambiguity. It's derived from the Greek 'topos' [place], but the prefix 'u' could be a contraction of either 'eu-' [good] or 'ou-' [no] - thus a utopia is either 'good place' or 'no place' (maybe both). The contemporary usage seems to focus on the former, but it's not obvious that More's Utopia was wholly ideal. Further a number of other linguistic clues - such as, the tale being told by a traveller called Hythloday [peddler of nonsense], and the island's chief river called Anyder [no water] - suggest perhaps More had the latter meaning in mind.

Admittedly, this isn't a book that will have mass appeal. It's not an easy read. Remember, it's older than Shakespeare - though I found the language easier going. My edition (details below) includes a handy glossary, but it wasn't the words that so much caused the problem as the old-fashioned phrasing. Be ready for lots of 'quoth', 'taketh' and the like though. As I said, it's not for a wide modern readership, but it is a work for those studying (or just interested in) history, literature, politics or philosophy.

More's work is presented as if a true, albeit second-hand, account of what a traveller Hythloday had seen. The first book (actually written later), however, serves as an introduction. Here More, along with his friend Peter Giles, Hythloday and a few others, discuss some political arrangements, and the faults with England. The death penalty for petty thieves, for example, is particularly condemned. For me though, the most enduring image was of sheep devouring men (p.22, my edition) - a commentary on the contemporary practice of 'enclosure', whereby common land was taken for profitable sheep-farming, for wool, but depriving peasants of their land, livelihood and food.

It's probably this first book that historians, or those interested in More's views on the society of his day, would be most interested in. Personally the bit I found most interesting was the brief discussion of Plato's ideas for political community. Nonetheless, this book isn't the real focus of the whole. Rather it leads into Hythloday describing (in the second book) the island of Utopia, where he claims to have spent five years.

Anyone interested simply in the origins of 'utopia' could probably read only the second book, losing relatively little from skipping the first. Here, a fictional island is described as if ideal, but in fact it's far from clear all is as well as initially presented. Certain freedoms are described and praised, but then gradually undermined by what's revealed in the later discussion - for example, the severe restrictions on freedom of movement (p.

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  • dragonhelmuk 08/10/2006 21:21
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    A good place is a no place? ;> Think I can appreciate what he's trying to say there. Good review.

  • the_mad_cabbie 30/10/2005 11:15
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  • jeffe 30/05/2005 12:34
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    great op, it sounds really interesting. might read it one day :) jeff

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