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www.tobaccoking.co.uk offer tobacco products at reduced prices so I ask myself is this legal so a bit more research is required.
The first thing I thought was is this too good to be true so I checked out their FAQ page.
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About us Tobacco King has been ... Read review
Advantages: Great if it's for real Disadvantages: It Could Be Illegal
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www.tobaccoking.co.uk offer tobacco products at reduced prices so I ask myself is this legal so a bit more research is required.
The first thing I thought was is this too good to be true so I checked out their FAQ page.
The home page state
About us Tobacco King has been supplying the cheapest cigarettes, rolling tobacco and cigars from Europe for over ... ...the United Kingdom. We are able to save you hundreds, perhaps thousands of pounds every year on your cigarette and tobacco purchases. All our products are guaranteed to be genuine and are manufactured by the original manufacturer. Our company policy is to assure our customers satisfaction, including the quality of our products and services provided.If you have any doubts try us out by buying one pack of your favourite brand of cigarettes, rolling ... more
I stumbled onto this website after receiveing an email offering me cheap priced tobacco products.
Now, all you non smokers will be against promoting smoking and I agree it is a filty disgusting habit but us smokers are addicts just like all the other junkies out there but don't receive the same sympathy.
I wish I had never started smoking and thankfully non of my children smoke but in saying that I enjoy my fags and although I have tried to stop several times I have never succeeded. You have to die from something so better to die happy than end up in an old folks home.
Sorry I am deviating so to get back to the review.................
www.tobaccoking.co.uk offer tobacco products at reduced prices so I ask myself is this legal so a bit more research is required.
The first thing I thought was is this too good to be true so I checked out their FAQ page.
The home page state
About us Tobacco King has been supplying the cheapest cigarettes, rolling tobacco and cigars from Europe for over 5 years, and has many satisfied customers from all over the United Kingdom. We are able to save you hundreds, perhaps thousands of pounds every year on your cigarette and tobacco purchases. All our products are guaranteed to be genuine and are manufactured by the original manufacturer. Our company policy is to assure our customers satisfaction, including the quality of our products and services provided.If you have any doubts try us out by buying one pack of your favourite brand of cigarettes, rolling tobacco or cigars. As a SPECIAL OFFER we will give you 15% discount off your first order when you register with us.
Their FAQ states.................................
Is it illegal to order a large quantity of cigarettes, for example, 50 cartons? It is the responsibility of the customer to ascertain and comply with the laws relating to the purchase and use of any tobacco goods.
I decided to do a bit of detective work and heres what I found .
Buying cigarettes on the Internet UK-BASED smokers are well aware that it is possible to make huge savings by buying tobacco abroad. With the price of cigarettes in the UK double the cost of some continental countries, and with travel easier and cheaper than ever, many consumers are now making regular trips and regular savings. Exploiting the price difference, some Internet companies have been offering the consumer all the cost benefits of cross-Channel shopping without leaving the comfort of your home. All you have to do is log on, choose your brand, forward your credit card details, and wait for the goods to arrive (or so they say). One company will sell you most major brand cigarettes at £2.50 per packet and offer to deliver any amount intended for your own personal consumption to your door within 28 days for a fee of only £1. If this sounds too good to be true, it is. Inevitably there are problems, the most serious being the disagreement between online cigarette suppliers and HM Customs who maintain that buying cigarettes over the Internet is illegal. Today, Customs are clamping down harder than ever, having been equipped in 2001 with millions of pounds of new technology by a government keen to claw back some of the estimated £3 billion in taxes that it loses each year as a direct result of smuggling. The law Customs and the Internet cigarette suppliers are especially at odds over Article 8 of Council Directive 92/12/EEC (February 25, 1992) that states that: 'As regards products acquired by private individuals for their own use and transported by them, the principle governing the internal market lays down that excise duty shall be charged in the member state in which they are acquired.' The Internet suppliers interpret the law as meaning that if the individual has paid for the delivery of products by post then they have transported the products themselves and that accordingly they should pay duty in the member state in which the goods were acquired. Customs takes a rather different view, as spelled out by their National Tobacco spokesman Robert Buxton: 'It is quite clear that, for goods like tobacco and alcohol, the local taxes, excise taxes, must be paid in the country where they're consumed.' According to Customs' reading of Article 8, 'transported by them' means that the individual must physically travel with their goods if they wish to make the savings. Legal opinion obtained in 2001 by FOREST (on behalf of a Labour councillor whose Internet purchases had been confiscated by Customs) concluded that, 'It is currently illegal to import cigarettes into this country through the post without paying the relevant duty', with 'relevant duty' in this case meaning 'UK duty'. This means you should pay exactly the same for your imported cigarettes as you would had you purchased them in the UK. The report was unequivocal in stating that, 'In order to qualify from relief of duty in respect of goods imported from an EU member state ... the excise goods must be personally imported by a traveller on a cross-Channel trip.' The reality Despite the best efforts of Customs, many purchases are inevitably getting through to the buyer. Customs say they simply don't have the resources to check every package posted abroad, but they would seize all Internet cigarettes if they could. We suspect (we don't know) that some Internet companies are getting so many packages through Customs' net and making such healthy profits that they can afford to re-send seized goods and so keep their customer base happy. The ultimate aim of these companies is to provide individual consumers with every cigarette they smoke. Repeat orders are the key to their success, and they envisage a time when they can send an individual a regular package (without the need for repeat ordering) every few weeks, meaning regular savings for the consumer and regular income for the company. For the moment consumer confidence has been hit by media stories that have questioned the effectiveness and the validity of Internet tobacco suppliers. The Daily Telegraph is just one paper that has put the service to the test by ordering goods and found it wanting. While many purchases do get through, it is quite hit and miss and when orders do go astray there is rarely an explanation from the supplier who might be impossible to track down. Apart from the illegality of what you are doing (Customs could decide to prosecute), the danger for the consumer is the fact that you are dealing with companies who may be under legal investigation and are beyond regulation. If your goods don't arrive you have very little chance of getting back either your goods or your money, which is no doubt why the Office of Fair Trading has warned against buying this way. Of course 'entrepreneurs' will always try to find a loophole in the law. A couple of years ago, for example, FOREST was contacted by an Internet company that was offering - get this - 200 cigarettes FREE of charge if you purchased from them a bottom of the range cigarette lighter: price £25. A rather obvious scam, perhaps, but typical of their ingenuity. Our advice? Buyer beware. Buying tobacco via the Internet is, quite simply, illegal. For this reason we can't condone it and if you do buy tobacco this way you do so at your own risk. After reading this I have decided not to buy from this site. I have emailed them to ask is what they are doing is legal and to date have not received a reply.
I would not recommend this site to anyone who likes to live within the law but it is your decision whether you want to take a gamble on receiving your goods or having them confiscated by customs.
I will update this review if I receive further information.
Advantages: Itc cheaper Disadvantages: Is it illegal if for personal use?
From personal experience its probably better to go for your own, tobacco but maybe the previous review was right it could be illegal?? which doesnt seem right in some respects if its for personal use you can buy whilst on holiday, we belong to eu?? so why then cant you buy abroad online for delivery to yourself for personal use.
I expect customs will charge tax though if they suspect packet is tobacco, you hear of this happening. I feel that this ...
vicky1996 13.11.2008
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Advantages: none in the long run........... Disadvantages: You will be robbed eventually it's how it works...........
I have been a customer of 'Tobaccoking' for the past 3 months....3 deliveries o.k..........The last one, impounded by customs according to 'tobaccoking'...A .pack of Lies.as the tobacco is posted from Oxford U.K.................. So, I have been robbed of £115 ..............yes, £115 .......DON'T BE TEMPTED BY THESE CROOKS...YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED........................Trevor A Jones...Devon.... e.mail received below... We have just checked the progress ... ...we can see that they have been stopped by Customs. Your tracking number is 39630283515 so if you go to http://www.gls-group.eu/276-I-PORTAL-WEB/content/GLS/ES01/EN/1.htm you can see where your goods are. Unfortunately this is beyond our control and Customs will confiscate and destroy the goods. This is not a regular occurrence but does happen from time to tim. ...
trejon 21.06.2009
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